Batman v Superman

[BentonGrey]

That was supposed to be humorous and light-hearted?  Am I the only one who saw it as just more doom and gloom?  You may be right, Midnite, but I'm wondering if they just have no real spark of life to fan for the trailer or if I've just got such a jaundiced view of the film that it never even occurred to me that's what they were going for.

Interestingly, that last image looks like something from Superman: Red Son.

[Tomato]

From the opening scene, I think Lex knows Bruce and Clark are Bats and Sups. In fact, I bet all three of them know who each other are. Which is why that scene is so great to me. Clark is playing dumb, Bruce is playing hard, and Lex is just trying to stir up s***. Love banter between Bruce and Clark. As for Lex being being goofy/campy, pretty sure its his public face.

I agree with this. Especially given a scene later in the trailer that I feel comes from an earlier sequence in the film.

[Shogunn2517]

That was supposed to be humorous and light-hearted?  Am I the only one who saw it as just more doom and gloom?  You may be right, Midnite, but I'm wondering if they just have no real spark of life to fan for the trailer or if I've just got such a jaundiced view of the film that it never even occurred to me that's what they were going for.

Interestingly, that last image looks like something from Superman: Red Son.

Yeah, that and the teaser earlier in the week makes me think Bats is cooking up this idea of what Superman will turn out to be. In a possible future.  Much like the scene of skulls with Zodiac from MoS.

But they do look like Parademons though.

[HarryTrotter]

Poster for new Lego Batman game...I mean BvS.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I should point out there are actually three posters, one for each of the trinity.

[Midnite]

[Midnite]

More viral marketing for the movie.

Wired has an "exclusive interview" with Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor from the upcoming Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

[HarryTrotter]

www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=129155&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Movie will have "epic running time" of 151 minutes.I guess it was a slow news day.

[Tomato]

So for those Aquaman fans out there (AKA Benton) who wanted a non-gray version of Aquaman's color scheme in BvS... here's an abomination of plastic for you to enjoy.

But no, seriously, don't panic yet. That Aquaman is from the more "kid friendly" toy line and is clearly not accurate to the films (If you don't believe me, here's some pics of other figures in the line. That Batman cape is AWFUL) What it does prove (and is the only reason I'm showing it) is the green-gold color scheme of the figure, as well as our first glimpse of the character below the torso... And while I do hope there is some more detail to the boots then what Mattel has shown, I'm happy to at least have the green pants confirmed.

Edit: I did a little musing about an upcoming toy wave, and it lead to some musings about the BvS trailer and how it may not have revealed as much as we initially thought.

[Midnite]

New Promos for DC's Legends of Tomorrow and Dawn of the Justice League Special

[Midnite]

Our First Look at the Justice League Is Here, and It's Damn Rad

[Midnite]

[JeyNyce]

I want that Wonder Woman, she is so freaking cute!!

[stumpy]

Cool! It seems like all of the male superheroes have frowny faces. I am guessing poorly fitting suit bottoms... 

BTW, who is the first person in the second row?

[JeyNyce]

Lex, then Lois and then WW

[JeyNyce]

After watching Dawn of the Justice League, I have high hopes for DC/ WB.  It looks like they want to do right by the fans and bringing Wonder Woman to the big screen is the first step.  2016 is going to be a good year for Super Heroes movies

[HarryTrotter]

Another poster.

[BentonGrey]

Bringing Wonder Woman to the big screen is about the only thing I find remotely positive about this era of WB/DC movies.  I'm glad that they are finally putting a superheroine on screen, but I don't have much faith in the end result being as positive as it should, since I'm sure we'll see another unstoppable, murderous killing machine in place of the morally constrained heroes of yesteryear.  At least it's likely she'll be a strong female character.  Yay?

[Midnite]

Spoiler

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Bringing Wonder Woman to the big screen is about the only thing I find remotely positive about this era of WB/DC movies.  I'm glad that they are finally putting a superheroine on screen, but I don't have much faith in the end result being as positive as it should, since I'm sure we'll see another unstoppable, murderous killing machine in place of the morally constrained heroes of yesteryear.  At least it's likely she'll be a strong female character.  Yay?

I should point out that they are at least addressing this issue with Superman in the new movie.  Apparently Gotham and Metropolis in this version are right next to each other on opposite sides of a river or other body of water.  A good chunk of Gotham got destroyed in the fight in Man of Steel.  One of the trailers even shows Bruce Wayne with debris falling around him and him recounted the thousands dead from Gotham.

So that's why he think Superman's so dangerous.  Superman's entire conflict with Batman is based around his carelessness that led to so many deaths.  While I am no fan of Man of Steel, I am hoping that this movie will cause him to become the Superman we are more familiar with.

[BentonGrey]

Cat, I see that, and I can understand their move.  If the movie were to just start over again, put that ugliness behind them and actually give us heroes, I'd be okay with that, but this approach just strikes me as so utterly disingenuous.  'Hey, everyone really hated how Superman was so utterly cavalier about fighting in the middle of Metropolis and how we gave no attention at all to the thousands of people that must be dying in those scenes.  Well, we'll just pretend that this was totally our plan.  See, we're deep and thoughtful!  We're making a whole movie about how punching an alien sungod through a building and killing your enemy is a bad thing!'

The original still galls, and them trying to capitalize on the worst aspects of that film just rubs the wound raw.  That's my take on it, and your mileage may vary, of course.

Also, apropos of othing, I really don't like the look of Affleck maskless.  He just doesn't look right to me as Wayne.

[kkhohoho]

Also, apropos of othing, I really don't like the look of Affleck maskless.  He just doesn't look right to me as Wayne.

I hate to play devil's advocate here, but shouldn't one's acting ability take precedence over their physical appearance? Isn't whether or not Affleck is able to play Wayne more important than whether or not he looks like him? I mean, I'm pretty sure that Mark Ruffallo looks nothing like Bruce Banner from the comics or even the cartoons, yet you don't really see anyone complaining. (Of course, that's even assuming Affleck can actually play him, but I digress. )

[BentonGrey]

Kk, I wasn't talking about his ability to play the role or even his suitability for the part.  I was talking about a specific personal reaction, and I didn't follow it with 'so he is obviously wrong for the part.'  I happen to think Affleck is a passable actor, but since you brought it up, that doesn't necessarily make him right for the part.  I think a big part of my problem with him is that he's just so darn recognizable.  I've got no problem with Affleck in general, but when I look at him, I don't see Bruce Wayne, I see Ben Affleck.  That's part of the reason I always like it when they get relatively unknowns for these roles.  On top of that, he doesn't LOOK like Bruce Wayne to me.

Now, in terms of "look," as I've said many times, comics are a visual medium, and characters are partially defined by their appearances.  Thus, a blonde guy playing Superman would really not fit the character, no matter how good an actor he was (aside from hair dye, of course).  This is a sliding scale, and a good actor can still really bring a character to life (Idris Elba as Heimdall being a good example, just because Elba is so freaking awesome), but there is certainly an element of "fit" in how appropriate the actor is for the role.  If they don't look the part, they'll stick out in every scene they're in, which will, at best, be distracting, and at worst really break the spell of the story.  The same thing can happen with a voice, etc.  It's all part of an actor's "presence" and fits into their portrayal. 

For example, I was just watching the classic John Wayne Alamo, and I was reading a bit about it.  Wayne played Davy Crockett, but he actually considered playing Jim Bowie and having Bowie's actor, Richard Widmark, play Crockett.  Both of those guys are big, larger than life western characters, but growing up, Crockett was one of my heroes.  So, I was thinking about how strange that would have been, because Wayne towered over Widmark, and it would have been really odd to have Crockett be dwarfed by Bowie in my mind, though they're both great actors and have plenty of presence.

Of course, Affleck isn't an obvious square peg or anything.  It isn't like he's a different race or hair color than the character, so your mileage may vary.  In this case, I'm speaking entirely for myself.

[HarryTrotter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cle_rKBpZ28
Final trailer.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I do like that Batman fight scene in the beginning.

[abenavides]

good trailer.
I'm cautiously optimistic.

[stumpy]

No one doubts that Zach Snyder can do action scenes. I wonder if there is any irony intended in the idea of answering those who criticized Man of Steel as too much destruction porn by making the sequel more of the same? Not that that's my criticism. A superhero movie should have plenty of action and I understand that anyone making this movie would be more than slightly aware that 2006's Superman Returns was criticized for being too slow and too much of an homage to the campy 70s/80s movies.

But, there is some contradiction in the attitude shown, intended or not, by one of the finest minds in the DC universe. If what we are told of the movie is correct, Bruce's attitude is supposed to represent the older, experienced counterpoint to Clark's brash, tyro approach to heroism. But, his "if we believe there is even a 1% chance he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty!" line sounds pretty much indistinguishable from rushing pell-mell to a destructive conclusion based on minimal information. That's not exactly how I think of Batman. Could be just me, I suppose. And, of course, the movie could be very enjoyable to watch even if, at the end of the day, Snyder & Co. get the characters wrong, again. It's just that, if this is to be the start of DC's (Warner's) expansion of their own cinematic universe, it would be kinda nice if we could leave the theater thinking, "These guys really get the characters. That really felt like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, etc. They nailed it."

Nevertheless, I still have hope that there is a fun movie to see. Trailers have specific purposes and catching all the nuances isn't really among them.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I post this mostly because Benton will get a kick out of it.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-zack-snyder-gets-modern-superman-wrong/

[BentonGrey]

Ha!  That is perfect!  What a wonderfully concise illustration of the problem!

[Outcast]

I don't see the movie version of Superman. Just an explosion and the boy falling to his death?

Edit: Sorry, yeah saw him bust through that building.