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Started by HarryTrotter, December 03, 2016, 07:18:58 AM

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BentonGrey

Quote from: Deaths Jester on December 23, 2016, 06:02:11 PM
Does that mean I'm going to have to wander around with a giant movie rating plastered on my butt?!? You know how expensive those stickers are?!?

I think a big censored bar would just be a better all-around solution.
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Panther_Gunn

I don't think they make one big enough.
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HarryTrotter

So today I heard an 8-year old proclaim he wants to be a youtuber.And every day I grow more convinced this world is past its expiration date.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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daglob

My daughter and son in law and I have all enjoyed Deadpool. We agree that my 11 year old granddaughter isn't old enough to see it yet, and my ex-wife may never be old enough.

HarryTrotter

Okay,not sure how Deadpool factors in here.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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Silver Shocker

Earlier in the thread (page 1) we were talking about whether or not people would take their kids to Deadpool. I guess someone was just late to the party.
"Now you know what you're worth? Then go out and get what you're worth, but you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers, saying you're not where you want to be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and THAT AIN'T YOU. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!"
~Rocky Balboa

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BentonGrey

That's when the cool kids show up.
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HarryTrotter

Well,Deadpool is still a better role model then "cash me ousside" girl.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

SickAlice

I saw Deadpool in the theater. When I did a few moms were freaked because they thought they were taking there kids to see an Avengers type film. Then again Wade makes fun of that fact and points it out right in the film. Also I believe in sensitivity when it comes to children, however and especially with little boys, children are not naive and boys tend to in fact like the nasty stuff. Maybe making it taboo in the first place is also what makes it appealing?

Anyways on point, the internet is filled with negativity for more reason than any else because it is an opportunity for people to vent their frustrations be it directly towards something or to externalize it on an already established one. Not unlike going to a therapist to just unload but more accessible and without very many repercussions as there would be in person. That doesn't make it good of course but in a manner the silver lining is it is healthful for peoples overall stress. And stress is of course a major cause of physical ailment. Myself I've had enough time to adjust that I'm able to recognize and screen out a venting, Facebook of course has that nice slider bar to scroll past the whining and more plugins to outright make it vanish. But there be negativity of it as surely as there be porn of it, this is just one of the rules.

HarryTrotter

So Alex De Campi complains mainstream industry has no titles aimed at kids.Probably true,but people who write for Heavy Metal Magazine shouldnt throw stones.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

BentonGrey

That's very true and something I've been saying for years, though I don't know who that fellow is.  I'm not sure one has to write age-appropriate stuff to say, 'hey, what people like me are doing really isn't for kids.'
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HarryTrotter

Its a lady,not a fellow,but that's not really important here.Just saying its a bit ironic,even if its true.
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BentonGrey

Fair enough. :)

By the way, after my sister let my little nephew see Deadpool, I made sure to send her a message when Logan came out telling her NOT to let him see it.  Fortunately, I was in time.  This time. :P
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HarryTrotter

I can somehow understand how Deadpool trailer confused people.But was that really a danger with Logan?
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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BentonGrey

She doesn't pay close enough attention. :P
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HarryTrotter

#46
Maybe Im a bit too late,but I finished watching SF Debris' Rise and Fall of the Comic empire.Wolf of Wallstreet has nothing on the plays around Marvels bankruptcy.Also,new owners are doing the exact things like the old owners.
Long story short,it did improve my opinion of Jim Shooter;and lowered my opinion of Rob Liefeld and Ike Perlmutter.Something I didn't thought possible.
Oh,and that famous meeting when the future Image founders quit from Marvel-there sure are a lot of versions of that story.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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Silver Shocker

Yeah, from what I've heard, as much of a tyrant and micromanager as Shooter is known for, he really wasn't that bad in some respects.
You may have heard this one before, but probably the best example....Hank Pym was never intended to hit his wife. He was just supposed to make an overdramatic hand gesture. Him hitting the wife was all the artist. Now, that's what Shooter says. Whether you believe it or not is up to you, but I personally buy it.
"Now you know what you're worth? Then go out and get what you're worth, but you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers, saying you're not where you want to be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and THAT AIN'T YOU. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!"
~Rocky Balboa

HarryTrotter

#48
As ussual,the truth is somewhere in between.He wasnt a villian,but he had his flaws.Its interesting to guess what could have been if he bought Marvel.
Im pretty sure we even discussed the Pym case somewhere here.
Funny story;Perlmutters first edict was to forbid everyone from throwing away paper clips.The second was to reduce Stan Lees salary.Which,as you can expect,backfired so amazingly they ended up paying Stan more then they did before.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
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Tomato

#49
Quote from: Spade on March 14, 2017, 07:00:36 PM
Long story short,it did improve my opinion of Jim Shooter;and lowered my opinion of Rob Liefeld and Ike Perlmutter.Something I didn't thought possible.

To be fair, SF Debris did warn you... no matter what your opinion of Liefeld was, the deal with Fighting American will make you think less of him.

In all seriousness though, that video series is fascinating, It's a lot of information for a casual viewer, but nevertheless is something I recommend for anyone interested in the history of the medium.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ2KzcSD1pE&list=PLP7v2GoLok37YBm3WBaqvrKd97uSMYDPT&index=2 link for the curious

HarryTrotter

There is also the fact he probably killed Mark Gruenwald.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

kkhohoho

Quote from: Spade on March 17, 2017, 04:50:39 AM
There is also the fact he probably killed Mark Gruenwald.

...Wut?
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HarryTrotter

As you probably know,Mark was a long time writer and a huge fan of Captain America.And then Heroes Reborn happened.
Mark recieved the copy of Robs CA #1 on Friday,and had a heart attack during the weekend.Are those events connected?Maybe not,but it probably didnt help either.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

Silver Shocker

Damn. That's actually kinda funny in a morbid kinda way.
"Now you know what you're worth? Then go out and get what you're worth, but you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers, saying you're not where you want to be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and THAT AIN'T YOU. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!"
~Rocky Balboa

HarryTrotter

#54
But the funniest story(outside of the drug tests for Marvel employees) is that when they were reviving Howard the duck,somebody actually asked Steve Gerber to submit a scrip as an audition(for the character he created). So Gerber,being himself,decides to submit the worst,most offensive and vulgar thing that he can come up with...and gets the job on the spot.Turns out he overestimated the tastes of Joe Quesada and Bill Jemmas.By a lot.
Also,how prophetic was that Quesadas company was named Event Comics?  :rolleyes:
And on the earlier topic of former owners,here is an easy question,guess what Ike Perlmutter and Carl Icahn are doing these days?Or should I say,guess who are they advising?
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer