TAP43's skins 9/6/09

TAP43 · January 25, 2009, 04:46:32 PM

Well I finally had time to finish these guys, I will be releasing them today on my yahoo group as soon as I finish the read me's. Also these will be for FFvs3R only and will be in DDS format, sorry FF1 guys I don't play it any more. Anyway here is Dr Alchemist, Heatwave, Captain Cold and the Electrocutioner. I should have them uploaded within a hour or so, let me know if you think they need anything more or less or if something does not look right. I fixed the mid section of capt. cold to make it look baggier, as that was one thing I heard after the last preview I did.

Thanks
TAP43

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 04:57:44 PM

GIMME GIMME GIMME NOW!!!!

Courtnall6 · January 25, 2009, 05:24:39 PM

Sweet work all around Tap...Captain Cold especially!

UnkoMan · January 25, 2009, 05:32:17 PM

Oh, finally! I think the Electrocutioner is the weakest of these. His bright red lacks tone, and the inverted chest looks odd.

The other three are fantastic though. Cold's clothing is great, but my fav is probably Dr. A.

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 05:34:46 PM

I can't decide what mesh Electrocutioner is on.. but it's really making me want to hand you a muscular version to use instead....

detourne_me · January 25, 2009, 05:41:55 PM

wow.... can't wait to grab these guys!
love the 5 o'clock shadow on the alchemist.
heatwave looks more like he's wearing a utility suit than spandex (which is truer to the character) and Captain Cold just looks spectacular, sadly i don't know much about the electrocutioner, so i prolly wont download him. i think i remember him in a nightwing comic, but hta about it.

TAP43 · January 25, 2009, 06:02:33 PM

Thanks for the repleys and glad you like them, and as for the Electrocutioner I understand the need for him to be a little more beefy. I had the hardest time with him, I started him about a year ago using hexxing them scoping. I will try to find a new mesh for the base body thats a little bit buffer. Any ideas? Here is the reference pic's I used for him

And as for the other three I just uploaded them to my yahoo group, Please let me know if anyone has any problems with them .
Thanks

TAP43

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 06:07:50 PM

Well, first off what mesh is Electrocutioner on? I might be able to help ya out.
Secondly for anybody that has yahoo groups.. maybe ya might wanna put a link to your groups in your sigs.. cause i have no freakin' idea how to locate most of your yahoo groups

TAP43 · January 25, 2009, 06:11:05 PM

He's on a scope by Lord Ehmsidy (Male Cape Effects Braclets) I had to us a cape version to get the head ties to work.

tommyboy · January 25, 2009, 06:12:31 PM

Nice work, on all of them.

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 06:18:29 PM

Quote from: TAP43 on January 25, 2009, 06:11:05 PM
He's on a scope by Lord Ehmsidy (Male Cape Effects Braclets) I had to us a cape version to get the head ties to work.

ah okay so I can't just make ya a replacement and let ya use that.. because you're skinned to pieces I didn't make. Best I could do is grab the parts via skope and then place them on another mesh.. and drrrr... not sure if that's morally correct for me to do.

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 06:19:08 PM

Quote from: ips on January 25, 2009, 06:16:14 PM
Quote from: Vertex on January 25, 2009, 06:07:50 PM
Well, first off what mesh is Electrocutioner on? I might be able to help ya out.
Secondly for anybody that has yahoo groups.. maybe ya might wanna put a link to your groups in your sigs.. cause i have no freakin' idea how to locate most of your yahoo groups

signatures are currently disabled since the archiving.

grrr well that screws that.. oh well
nevermind your release thread has the addy so that points me where to go anyhow in this case

sigh correction the link sent me back here aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah curse you for foiling my evil plans to download your creations!

detourne_me · January 25, 2009, 06:35:50 PM

Oh no, i've got a problem with Captain Cold... his boday has disappeared. his hood, and fur. belt and glasses are visible but everything else is not... does he have an alpha channel?

but excelletn jobs on the heatwave and doc alchemist skopes, rally, heatwaves goggles and gun are great

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 06:37:41 PM

Quote from: detourne_me on January 25, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
Oh no, i've got a problem with Captain Cold... his boday has disappeared. his hood, and fur. belt and glasses are visible but everything else is not... does he have an alpha channel?

but excelletn jobs on the heatwave and doc alchemist skopes, rally, heatwaves goggles and gun are great

ditto for me.. just opened ctool and only the extras are showing up.

TAP43 · January 25, 2009, 07:19:45 PM

O.K. take too, I just uploaded the new version. I did not realize there was a alpha channel and I also made a mistake in the read me. I forgot to add the tunic and hoody ties to the list of Tommyboy extras and did not add Afghan ant as the skinner of the gun I use in the skope. I apologize for that and have corrected it, sorry in to much of a hurry. Please re-download and let me know if that works and if someone could try the other ones, thank you.

TAP43

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 07:24:44 PM

Quote from: TAP43 on January 25, 2009, 07:19:45 PM
O.K. take too, I just uploaded the new version. I did not realize there was a alpha channel and I also made a mistake in the read me. I forgot to add the tunic and hoody ties to the list of Tommyboy extras and did not add Afghan ant as the skinner of the gun I use in the skope. I apologize for that and have corrected it, sorry in to much of a hurry. Please re-download and let me know if that works and if someone could try the other ones, thank you.

TAP43

I'm so sorry but just re-downloaded cold and I'm still not seeing him, just all the wonderful extras... the body itself is completely invisible.

Xenolith · January 25, 2009, 07:40:02 PM

Same for me. I opened male_basic in GIMP and there isn't anything in there.

TAP43 · January 25, 2009, 07:51:52 PM

O.K. take three, I just realize I had tried the skin partion feature in Nifskope on this mesh. I have uploaded the mesh again from the copy I had before I did the skin partion. I am sorry for asking again for people to download again and see if that was the problem. Any word on the others? do they show up, work?

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 08:20:43 PM

Okay Cold works great for me now

sorry thought that it was understood that the others are working just great.

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 08:28:02 PM

Mind if I use these hexes as a... perfect chance to ask a question?

Okay love them, think they are great.. wish like hell they had different animations. Now, this brings up a quandry I've often had as a mesher. If I want to recreate them so I can give better anims, here are the ways I could go.

1. Completely make from scratch meshes of my own to look like what you've done.
(counterpoint) now you skin doesn't work on my reproduction and I feel I've lost out on something. your skin fits those items as they are made for mapping and things just won't match.
2. I could use skope to grab those items and import them into max and then animate and release as a new mesh.
(counterpoint) whoa whoa.. moral murkiness.. it's one thing for a hexxer to do that but am I now violating some mesher ettiquete. Plus sadly if I put them on a vx body.. which I personally prefer.. now at least some of the skin doesn't fit so I still haven't managed to do what I wanted which was to have a (god help me) improved (yes bad word) version of what you've already done.

any thoughts please because I really have gone back and forth on this concept many times myself already.

tommyboy · January 25, 2009, 08:51:55 PM

I would say that for my part, anything I've made can be hexxed, skoped or altered via import to Max. Can't speak for anyone else of course.
In a case like this, if the parts involved are relatively simple ones, I would think it possible to remake the parts yourself and match the mapping to the pre-existing bits.
Moral conundrum solved, you've made it all yourself.
Since we've done that with whole bodies to get meshes with mapping compatible with male/female basic etc, I think it should be do-able, if a bit of a pain to match up the geometry and mapping.
A third route to better anims is to do your VX magic in max, then export the new anims on a bog-standard male_basic max file. Voila, better anims for existing skopes (assuming that they use mb compatible keyframes...)

Vertex · January 25, 2009, 08:54:32 PM

sigh let me start a new post on this in meshes.. feel like I'm hijacking this thread and I have more to discuss on the matter.

Jakew · January 25, 2009, 09:40:19 PM

great work TAP43. I'm glad you got around to releasing these ... i particularly like Dr Alchemist!

Gremlin · January 25, 2009, 10:43:17 PM

These are stellar, Tap! Great work! I love Dr. Alchemy's face. The shadows are perfect with that expression.

Outcast · January 26, 2009, 03:44:20 AM

Really impressive work on the creases on these skins.

I've tried doing such creases and it is not very easy.

jeremy355 · January 26, 2009, 03:58:17 AM

Incredible skins as always Tap.

triviaman · January 26, 2009, 12:12:31 PM

There seems to be something wrong with the portrait files.
They just show up as turquoise in-game.

Otherwise stellar work

USAgent · January 26, 2009, 12:20:41 PM

Quote from: triviaman on January 26, 2009, 12:12:31 PM
There seems to be something wrong with the portrait files.
They just show up as turquoise in-game.

Otherwise stellar work

Yeah, I noticed that myself, I just got done adjusting my hero files to your new versions and when I went to test them out in the Rumble room they all had the light blue portait.
Them are some sweet skopes and skins!!!

murs47 · January 26, 2009, 09:15:06 PM

hawt sauce!

TAP43 · January 26, 2009, 11:09:36 PM

I don't know what up with the portrait, I converted the to .dds. Does anyone know if they need .tga's?
If so I can upload as a zip with just the portraits, otherwise I will have to check them when I get home tonight. And see if I can find the problem.
thanks

TAP43

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