I knew this was going to happen as soon as he won a golden globe

Started by captmorgan72, January 29, 2009, 12:54:07 AM

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BWPS

Quote from: Y...2...JThere's a lot of a difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and actually being one in real life
No, there really isn't. Well... I guess the first option requires some acting talent.

Still, that's funny. They should have a grudge match.
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deano_ue

Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: Y...2...JThere's a lot of a difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and actually being one in real life
No, there really isn't. Well... I guess the first option requires some acting talent.

don't start with that crap

detourne_me

that's pretty durn funny!
what did Mickey Rourke say to offend Y2J so much before?
also.... if it was Mickey from 10 or more years ago... my money'd be on him in a bare knuckle brawl.

BWPS

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on January 29, 2009, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: Y...2...JThere's a lot of a difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and actually being one in real life
No, there really isn't. Well... I guess the first option requires some acting talent.

don't start with that crap
I'm sorry, you're right. Wrestling is completely real and they all give amazing and believable performances.
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deano_ue

Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on January 29, 2009, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: Y...2...JThere's a lot of a difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and actually being one in real life
No, there really isn't. Well... I guess the first option requires some acting talent.

don't start with that crap
I'm sorry, you're right. Wrestling is completely real and they all give amazing and believable performances.

you know sarcasm doesn't suit you, myself and 99% of the wrestling fans know the outcomes are scripted and the not everyone who does it, does it believable, but we do respect the effort and sacrifices the athletes, yes athletes put into the entertainment

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BWPS

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on January 29, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on January 29, 2009, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: Y...2...JThere's a lot of a difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and actually being one in real life
No, there really isn't. Well... I guess the first option requires some acting talent.

don't start with that crap
I'm sorry, you're right. Wrestling is completely real and they all give amazing and believable performances.

you know sarcasm doesn't suit you, myself and 99% of the wrestling fans know the outcomes are scripted and the not everyone who does it, does it believable, but we do respect the effort and sacrifices the athletes, yes athletes put into the entertainment
Yeah, so do I. I like wrestling and think that what they do is really cool. I have a lot of respect for the athletes, including Chris Jericho. s fake because it's just better that way. But what I said is still true, I never said I didn't respect the effort of the athletes, I just said that wrestlers (WWE and such) are pretty much playing wrestlers on TV, which is not a big difference from playing a wrestler on a movie. The majority of them give really campy performances, which I also like but it doesn't involve much acting talent.
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Didn't his agent or somebody come out and say the whole thing is canceled?
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crimsonquill

Quote from: Vertex on January 29, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
Didn't his agent or somebody come out and say the whole thing is canceled?

Yup, Glitch Girl above posted a link about it.. pretty much sounded like a publicity stunt to me.
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captmorgan72

That's too bad, I might have actually watched this match. I used to be a long time fan of wrestling but just kinda lost interest years ago. Everyone knows this stuff is scripted but just like the movies, tons of people still love it. One thing is for sure though, these entertainers are forces of nature for real. They take massive beatings during their matches and receive injuries all the time. Also if anyone doubts that wrestlers can't "bring it" in real life all they have to do is take a look at what Brock Lesner did in the UFC. The UFC is as real as you can get.

captmorgan72

Quote from: BWPS on January 29, 2009, 04:31:44 AM
Quote from: Y...2...JThere's a lot of a difference between playing a wrestler in a movie and actually being one in real life
No, there really isn't. Well... I guess the first option requires some acting talent.

Still, that's funny. They should have a grudge match.

Actually BWPS, I have to agree with Jericho. In a movie playing a wrestler you are not going to take a beating like you would if you actually are a wrestler entertaining a crowd. I would imagine that there are rules governing what a actor can and can not do in regards to stunts. Insurance liability and all.

Mowgli

Wrestling's fake and Jericho's still a talented athlete. It takes a lot of talent to pull off some of that stuff they do and not hurt each other. So I respect the skills, but Jericho needs to chill out. I mean, whoever thought Mickey Rourke would be the guy taking the high road? Even while Jericho is acting like a middle school kid. I'm sure Jericho's a better professional wrestler than Rourke.. no doubt about it. But Mickey would beat the $#!* out of Jericho in a boxing match, bare knuckle or otherwise... no doubt about it. Mick has boxed professionally and was pretty good at it.

I'm glad to see Mickey has changed though. He was always a great actor, maybe now he can behave himself and get the respect his talent deserves.
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and the publicist's statement (not agent's) was recanted stating and it was stated that Mickey would be at Wrestlemania in some capacity.

My money is on Mickey doing a run-in on Jericho and costing him a match.  Similar to what William Shatner did to Jerry "The King" Lawler on an episode of Raw.

captmorgan72

Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on January 31, 2009, 06:37:19 AM
and the publicist's statement (not agent's) was recanted stating and it was stated that Mickey would be at Wrestlemania in some capacity.

My money is on Mickey doing a run-in on Jericho and costing him a match.  Similar to what William Shatner did to Jerry "The King" Lawler on an episode of Raw.

What? When did Shatner do this? Did they play the DA NA NA NANANANA NANANANA NAH music?  :)

RTTingle

Quote from: captmorgan72 on January 31, 2009, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Hamrick on January 31, 2009, 06:37:19 AM
and the publicist's statement (not agent's) was recanted stating and it was stated that Mickey would be at Wrestlemania in some capacity.

My money is on Mickey doing a run-in on Jericho and costing him a match.  Similar to what William Shatner did to Jerry "The King" Lawler on an episode of Raw.

What? When did Shatner do this? Did they play the DA NA NA NANANANA NANANANA NAH music?  :)

Here. Quite a few years ago, back to 1995.  And no they didn't.  The TJ Hooker music may have been more appropriate.  A hammerlock and a monkeyflip... heh. 

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Ares_God_of_War

Quote from: Mowgli on January 30, 2009, 09:15:01 PM
Wrestling's fake and Jericho's still a talented athlete. It takes a lot of talent to pull off some of that stuff they do and not hurt each other. So I respect the skills, but Jericho needs to chill out. I mean, whoever thought Mickey Rourke would be the guy taking the high road? Even while Jericho is acting like a middle school kid. I'm sure Jericho's a better professional wrestler than Rourke.. no doubt about it. But Mickey would beat the $#!* out of Jericho in a boxing match, bare knuckle or otherwise... no doubt about it. Mick has boxed professionally and was pretty good at it.

I'm glad to see Mickey has changed though. He was always a great actor, maybe now he can behave himself and get the respect his talent deserves.

The whole thing from Rourke's comments that started this were planned out. So is Jericho's way of handling it. Also on a side note Jericho is one of the wrestlers who actually does have some credibility with actual fighting/wrestling and knowing both of their historys I think in an actual match it would be pretty good.
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RTTingle

...used to be in the biz.

  Have to say, wrestlers are athletes and actors, maybe entertainers. I preferred it when they were athletes far above actors.  When they became entertainers, I pretty much swore it off. 

  Like all athletes, its just a question of their ability.  Some are a lot more talented then others.  Sadly, the sport is judged by those who are the latter of the two --- the actors and entertainers.  Sadly the wrestlers who are athletes above being actors and entertainers aren't appreciated by the fans or the business as a whole 

  To be a wrestler requires as much skill as it does to be a gymnist, skater, swimmer... etc.  There are a lot of sports out there that have no direct competition, no contact at all and are judged.  Some outcomes of some sports are based upon someones supposed professional opinion.  How are they more of an athlete then wrestlers? 

  Any matters, someone scored a DVD screener copy of The Wrestler for me.  Saw it several weeks ago.  Good stuff.  Good look at the biz and some things behind it.  I'm not sure it should have been up for the awards... while I wouldn't say it was among the years best --- it is up there as a good movie, almost great --- just not quite.  I'd have changed a few things and ditched a few scenes. 

  Would still like to see him at WM in some capacity though.  While I don't think it'll be a match --- I have no doubt Rourkes going to get tangled in a finish somehow.

  To end it all, I'll be enjoying men in tights pretending to fight each other next weekend.  The Renaissance Festival is in town, do you think the people watching know its fake?

RTT

JeyNyce

This is all just a stunt to promote Rourke & WWE (some of the lesser known wrestlers were in the movie).  This was done before by Hogan when he was doing movies.  I give both men credit for playing off each other so well.  Rourke has a lot of respect for wrestling and even invited a few of them to the premiere of his movie. 
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lugaru

Quote from: RTTingle on January 31, 2009, 04:38:46 PM
To be a wrestler requires as much skill as it does to be a gymnist, skater, swimmer...

Makes me think, if they dropped the act and called it "synchronized fighting" (a la skating or swimming) you would have a ton of intellectual comentators talking about the amazing form on that piledriver and the grace of that body slam. At the end both wrestlers would recieve a shared score and a polite ovation.

Now since did it pro... is the floor on the ring usually really hard? I climbed into a ring in Mexico when I was a teenager and it HURT when I tried a stunt. I figured maybe all rings are like that or maybe that just that lowsy exhibition ring was that hard.


captmorgan72

I remember when I was a kid and saw Jumping Jim Brunzell and Greg Gagne in a match in Milwaukee. Hours before the matches began I jumped in the ring and did a belly flop and the mat felt pretty hard to me. I got in trouble also for doing this but it was worth it.