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Started by Midnite, March 06, 2009, 07:24:57 AM

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Gremlin

...I was about to question that but then realized it was the Onion. Heh.

BWPS

That was some kind of funny. The ONN is awesome. Their articles weren't bad but nothing compared to the crazy stuff they say on there.
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Quote from: Alaric on May 10, 2009, 03:09:28 PM
Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As 'Fun, Watchable'

"... early reviews are calling it a delightful action adventure movie and a sure fire hit."

"No wonder the fans feel betrayed here."

Bwa ha ha ha.  That's hilarious.  Great bit.  On par with their Iron Man bit from last summer.

RTT

danhagen

The audience applauded the night I saw it. And two friends in other parts of the country said the same thing happened when they saw it. The film is delightfully entertaining and true-hearted.
Veritas et probitas super omnia.

Talavar

Wow, rave city.  I guess I'm alone in not loving this movie - it was pretty good, I'd say the fourth best Star Trek movie, but that's mostly on the strength of character work and directing.

The plot itself relied too much on coincidences and had a number of head-shakers (even JJ Abrams has acknowledged problems with the script - rumour is that the script was in the midst of rewrites when the Writer's Guild strike hit, and they started filming with what they had).  Still, it was pretty good, and could have been much worse.

AncientSpirit

Aleric, hilarious!   Thanks for sharing.

I saw the film on Mother's Day - and won a sucker bet from my wife - who thought the theater would be empty because who would take their mother to a Star Trek movie?

This was one brilliant movie!   I keep hearing that JJ Abrams wasn't a big trekkie fan and had to surround himself by the "crazed ones" to make a film that would appeal to old timers like myself, as well as a brand new generation.

I'm not so sure that's true.    The first really big Star Trek movie was "the Wrath of Khan" - which followed up on one of the TV's shows most popular episodes.     I think Abrams did the exact same thing here - though I'm not hearing it mentioned anywhere.   Another of the most popular TOS episodes was "Mirror, Mirror" - where Kirk (plus two) wind up in an alternate Star Trek universe.   And all the familiar faces in the alternate universe were similar but not matching.   

I think the only part of this new Star Trek that left me feeling sad was seeing the new Bones.   He was great but he was so dead on that sadly reminded me of the loss of Deforest Kelley.   The new Scotty was also great but different enough that he just bring back any ghosts for me.

The producers/director made absolutely the right choice in not bringing back Shatner for a cameo - and Nimoy was indespensible in his role.   I had given up on the TV show Fringe because it had gotten a little to silly for me ... but once I read that Nimoy would be appearing in a recurring role, I added it to my DVR, again. 

Can't believe what a great movie season this spring/summer is shaping up to be.    And now ... I can't wait for the Star Trek DVD.
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detourne_me

Quote from: danhagen on May 10, 2009, 05:59:27 PM
The audience applauded the night I saw it. And two friends in other parts of the country said the same thing happened when they saw it. The film is delightfully entertaining and true-hearted.

Same here when I saw it.
My girlfriend was freaked out,  she's never heard of people applauding a movie before. I sheepishly told her that I wanted to clap too,  but I didn't want to embarrass her and our friends :P

Spring Heeled Jack

Ha! The audience applauded and some old guy was openly weeping at the end. :D

Which is great. I'm glad to see that there's still a wide audience for the Star Trek franchise. Most of the audience was men aged 24-50 (myself included), but there were quite a few women and younger folk too. Most people were in groups.

I really liked the movie, but I hope this "alternate universe" doesn't preclude any future projects in the original universe. It'd be a shame to leave all that history by the side of the road.

And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.

BentonGrey

I came across this today on PvP.  If it proves true, I think that I will really love this movie:



QuoteMy father introduced me to Star Trek. We used to watch the original series whenever it came on.

One of my favorite memories of watching the show with my dad might be a little bit embarrassing for him. But I'm going to share it with you anyway.

One time, my dad cried at an episode of Star Trek. It wasn't any special episode either. It was probably one he had seen a million times before and never cried at. It ended like every episode of Star Trek ended, with Kirk and Bones laughing at Spocks inability to understand their illogical emotions. Over the credits, Kirk gives Spock a sharp slap to the arm and my dad laughed out loud. Then he paused and he got a bit overwhelmed. He got misty. Happy misty. Sentimental misty.

When I asked him why he was tearing up, he simply smiled at me and replied. "Because they're friends."

And I remember my mother coming in and doting on him and finding it endearing that he cared so deeply for fictional characters.

You're going to hear a lot about this new Trek. People are going to talk about the action, effects and the casting. They're going to even talk about how careful the film-makers were to weave this new series into existing Trek continuity. Those are all great reasons to see Star Trek. Make no mistake though, the reason you'll love this movie is the same reason my dad loved the original. "Because they're friends."

I got a teared up a little at the end of Star Trek. They got me by using the original theme music in the ending credits. My dad was there with us to see the movie. It felt good. It felt like home.

I can assure you... this is most definitely my father's Star Trek.

Hopefully my father will be able to make it up here for my graduation this weekend, and if he does I'd really like to see this movie with him.  It was a similar thing with us, after all.  He introduced me to Star Trek, and I have a lot of good memories of hanging out with him on a Saturday when I was a kid, watching Kirk kick alien butt.
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Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PM

And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.
Spoiler
I thought the Romulans were saved, because of Nero's actions, and because Spock has knowledge to prevent it from happening.
I think it's really interesting having the Vulcans as a diasporic community. It gives a bit more importance to the mission of the Federation (prime directive and protecting all life)

Alaric

Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
I really liked the movie, but I hope this "alternate universe" doesn't preclude any future projects in the original universe. It'd be a shame to leave all that history by the side of the road.

For what it's worth, I believe that the upcoming Star Trek MMORPG will take place in the original timeline.

Quote from: detourne_me on May 11, 2009, 06:36:20 PM
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PM

And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.
Spoiler
I thought the Romulans were saved, because of Nero's actions, and because Spock has knowledge to prevent it from happening.

Spoiler
They may have been saved in this new timeline (although, since those events take plaec a long time after the events of the movie, we don't really know yet), but in the original timeline, the one Spock and Nero came from, they haven't been saved. Nothing Spock and Nero have done in the past will have an effect on that timeline. Remember, Nero wasn't trying to save the Romulan Empire- he was trying to get revenge, pure and simple.
Fear the "A"!!!

Spring Heeled Jack

Spoiler
Yes. Romulus had to be destroyed in the original universe in order for Nero and Spock to be drawn into the past, into the alternate universe.

Sigh. The Star Trek wiki Memory Alpha states that Romulus (and consequently Remus) has been annihilated.

Lame.

Podmark

I loved it. Cast was prefect and I found the whole thing exciting, funny, and enjoyable.
I'm a reasonably big Trek fan, but I'm not actually much of a TOS fan, but that didn't bother me at all.

It's sad that Wolverine made more money in it's opening weekend than Trek.

Quote from: Midnite on May 10, 2009, 06:04:34 AM
Awesome movie! Did anyone see Kumar?  :lol:

Was Kal Penn actually in it? I thought I saw someone who might have been him for a  second.
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The Hitman

Just saw it last night. Will probably go back before it leaves theaters. I never do that.

Syler- Spock (Spockler?) was pretty good, but the guy hat did the best interpretation was Karl Urban, the guy who played Dr. McCoy. Perfect balance of mimicing DeForrest Kelly and adding new layers to the character. And Simon Pegg stole the show.

The only nitpick I have is with Nero. Eric Bana, in my humble opinion, did not bring his "A- game" to the film. He just seemed kinda... there.

This movie made me not wretch at the thought of Chris Pine as Hal Jordan.

Quote from: Podmark on May 11, 2009, 09:16:24 PM
Was Kal Penn actually in it? I thought I saw someone who might have been him for a  second.

I thought I saw him too, but I could have been wrong.

BWPS

It looked like him to me, but it isn't
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/RenegadeIrl/?action=view&current=vlcsnap-4037551.png
I figured he'd be too busy with his new White House job to do a movie, if he can't be Kutner anymore.  :(
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style

#75
Ok, ok, ok!!! We all seen the new Star Trek movie and agree it is the Bomb! A truly great movie. So lets talk about what we would like to see in the sequal. I was looking at Collider.com and on there, there was the Host video conferrencing with one of his fellow rumor site buddies. And they was talking about what they would like to see in the sequal. Now the friend said he had an idea....He said (oh and this next statement is spoiler for those who haven't seen the movie yet) :spoiler: since Nero changed the History of the characters "Kill off one of the original members of the crew and replace them with a new character"  :spoiler: and when he said that my heart droped!!!.....But that is a darn good idea! :blink: That would cause the same uproar as the  Death of Spock caused! What do you all think?
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AfghanAnt

I absolutely loved this movie and I actually stood up and clapped at the end (luckily I was not alone).

Talavar

Quote from: style on May 12, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
Ok, ok, ok!!! We all seen the new Star Trek movie and agree it is the Bomb! A truly great movie.

I don't.  Agree, that is.

Quote from: style on May 12, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
"Kill off one of the original members of the crew and replace them with a new character"

Can the new character be named Welshy?

Spring Heeled Jack


Podmark

Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 12, 2009, 09:02:45 PM
I absolutely loved this movie and I actually stood up and clapped at the end (luckily I was not alone).

Yeah that happened when I saw it too.

Quote from: BWPS on May 12, 2009, 02:37:03 PM
It looked like him to me, but it isn't
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/RenegadeIrl/?action=view&current=vlcsnap-4037551.png
I figured he'd be too busy with his new White House job to do a movie, if he can't be Kutner anymore.  :(

Yeah I wasn't sure. I looked around but haven't been able to confirm.
But his part in Star Trek probably would have been filmed before he retired, wouldn't it? Also I miss Kutner :(
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GogglesPizanno

QuoteSo lets talk about what we would like to see in the sequal.

Spoiler
NO MORE FREAKIN TIME TRAVEL!!
If you are not Marty McFly, Dr. Who, or Fred Ward in Timerider.... you dont get to rely of time travel so much.
Its a crux.
...ok Rant over.

In all honesty I would like to see them take the fun and youthfull energy this cast had and get some new writers and take it someplace bizarre and unexpected. If you are gonna do the whole alternate timeline thing and kill off the vulcans and give yourself the freedom to change stuff, go crazy. I dont want to see them just try and rehash old trek with youthful enthusiasm, I wanna see them come up with their own thing. Something that makes classic trek fans go "HUH?!?" and us more casual fans go "Why didn't they do this before?"

Alaric

Frankly, I'd rather see a new TV series featuring these actors/characters than a new series of movies.
Fear the "A"!!!

Star

After "Enterprise" crashed, I can't imagine a new Star Trek TV series in on the cards.

Besides, movies is where the $$$ are at.

Alaric

Quote from: Star on May 13, 2009, 06:00:15 AM
After "Enterprise" crashed, I can't imagine a new Star Trek TV series in on the cards.

Besides, movies is where the $$$ are at.

I didn't say I expected that to happen (I don't)- just that that's what I'd like to see.
Fear the "A"!!!

Spring Heeled Jack

Seconded, Alaric. It won't happen, but I'd really like to see a new Star Trek series set in the 24th Century, after the Dominion War. I mean, they invested 15 years in that timeframe--how could I not want to see more?

Unfortunately, the general public has many reasons for not wanting to see more. :o

thanoson

Ok, is Tom Cruise really Nero? Or is that just some wishful thinking?
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yell0w_lantern

Its that Bana guy as Nero, isn't it?
Yellow Lantern smash!

BWPS

Quote from: thanoson on May 13, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
Ok, is Tom Cruise really Nero? Or is that just some wishful thinking?

Everyone else in the world seems to be convinced that I'm full of crap. But I know it was him!
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GogglesPizanno

Just like you knew it was Kumar?  :P

AncientSpirit

In the sequel, I would like to see

1) Sulu be acknowledged as gay, in tribute to George T.
2) Chris Pine finds a way to save Shatner's Kirk from falling to death.  Shatner then dies a truly heroic death as he eats a poison meal meant to kill one of the few remaining Vulcans, Ambassador Spock.
3) Have Chris Pine eat something really exotic and comment that if he keeps enjoying food as much as this, he's going to get really fat someday.
4) While investigating a form of energy never previously encountered beofre, Bones meets and falls in love with the women who in the original series turns out to be the Salt Monster -  but in this version she is ironically turned INTO a pillar of salt because she looks back at the energy after being told not to.
5) While investigating a distress signal, the crew of the Enterprise encounters an alien life form very similar to humans but who live under a red sun.   The planet is about to explode and somehow Scotty's shields are depleted to 5%.    Kirk realizes a lone ship has been shot from the planet into space on a trajectory that will bring it to Earth ... and that the ship is powered by a super powerful dilithium crystal, which Scotty is able to transport over to the Enterprise and save the ship.   Somehow the baby in the ship dies a heroic death. 

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