Star Trek (2009)

[Star]

Diora Baird aka Green Alien Babe, needs a bigger role in the future sequel. 

[BWPS]

I hope in the next one they go visit the best planet ever: Ceti Alpha FaiVe!

[thalaw2]

I hope we get t osee Bones and Jadzia get down....or did that happen before he joined the Enterprise?  No matter it would make a cool time travel event. 

Also, the Klingon head thing can be properly explained.

EDIT:  Not Jadzia...the host before the host before the host.

[style]

And I repeat!!!

....the Klingon head thing can be properly explained.

[Spring Heeled Jack]

No imagination, poor makeup budget back in the '60s. Explained!

Worf alluded to the head ridge thing once, as did an episode of Enterprise. I forget what they said, but it made a little bit of sense, if I recall.

[Glitch Girl]

Worf said "We do not discuss it with outsiders." when confronted with the difference between Old Trek Klingons and NextGen Klingons in the "Trials and Tribblations" episode of DS9.

What?  I loved that episode. 

Didn't watch Enterprise enough to know how they addressed it, though. 

[Alaric]

Worf said "We do not discuss it with outsiders." when confronted with the difference between Old Trek Klingons and NextGen Klingons in the "Trials and Tribblations" episode of DS9.

What?  I loved that episode. 

Didn't watch Enterprise enough to know how they addressed it, though. 

I heard that they apparently explained it fully on Enterprise, but I barely watched the show, myself. In any case, I think explaining it further than Worf's comment would be a mistake. That was the perfect explanation, as far as I'm concerned.

[Spring Heeled Jack]

Yeah, I'm a very inquisitive person when it comes to my favorite TV shows, but as far as Klingonese head ridges is concerned, I'm okay with not having a great explanation. I can just accept that the original series didn't go all-out with the makeup.

Ah: Memory Alpha tells me that Levodian flu caused infected Klingons to lose their ridges. Ta-da.

[Elmir Fud]

Hi folks, long time, just dying to discuss Star Trek the latest creation, but I can't recall how to do the SPOILER open/close trick. Didn't it used to be in a stickied thread in this forum? IMHO it still should be. Anyhow I liked the movie a lot, but there were hella lots of inconsistencies, continuity issues within the film.

[Alaric]

Hi folks, long time, just dying to discuss Star Trek the latest creation, but I can't recall how to do the SPOILER open/close trick. Didn't it used to be in a stickied thread in this forum? IMHO it still should be. Anyhow I liked the movie a lot, but there were hella lots of inconsistencies, continuity issues within the film.

Doing the "spoiler" thing's actually a lot easier than it used to be. Just highlight the the section you want to include in the spoiler and hit the "spoiler" button- the blinking red-and-yellow word balloon thingy right above the  and  smiley thingies.

Or, you could just quote someone else, erase everything except the spoiler part, and replace the contents of the spoiler with what you want to say.

[marhawkman]

And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.

same here, I'm hoping this timeline has them get saved(Kinda like the second time Tasha Yar died).

Worf said "We do not discuss it with outsiders." when confronted with the difference between Old Trek Klingons and NextGen Klingons in the "Trials and Tribblations" episode of DS9.

What?  I loved that episode. 

Didn't watch Enterprise enough to know how they addressed it, though. 

I heard that they apparently explained it fully on Enterprise, but I barely watched the show, myself. In any case, I think explaining it further than Worf's comment would be a mistake. That was the perfect explanation, as far as I'm concerned.

It was "Levodian flu", but

Spoiler

Levodian flu was the result of Klingons experimenting with Metagenics. They were trying to copy Soong and his "Augments".

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Basically, the virus made them Klingon/human hybrids, which was quite dishonorable, hence why they won't talk about it.

[BWPS]

I think it says a lot about the movie that I didn't even notice similarities until I saw this

[Gremlin]

...hahaha. That's entertaining. But Kirk is much more like Han Solo then Luke Skywalker. 

[marhawkman]

Basically, the virus made them Klingon/human hybrids, which was quite dishonorable, hence why they won't talk about it.

And worse their hubris would have spelled the end of the Klingon Empire! (if Phlox hadn't found a cure that is)

The new timeline needs to have Kirk collecting Romulan women rather than random aliens.... And maybe a few half-Human-half-Romulan Kirk jr.'s.

[Spring Heeled Jack]

I'd be interested in seeing alien races that first appeared in TNG and afterward, but which obviously were interacting with the Federation back in Kirk's day. Cardassians, the Breen, and so on.

Oh, and more Tholians.

[thalaw2]

I hope they avoid the Borg like the Plague.  IMO the Borg started out as a great idea that alluded to old skool sci-fi but then went completely to crap.

Spoiler

Now that the franchise has gone in this new direction what will it do for the spread of the Klingon Empire...no Romulans to keep them in check.

[Spring Heeled Jack]

Well, in the TNG-era universe, the Federation is holding things together with string and hope. They still have the Dominion to contend with. That peace is tenuous at best. Add the Borg, the Klingons, the Cardassians, and a newly gone-to-heck super freak-out Romulan Star Empire, and Starfleet's going to be up to its nacelles in phaser fire.

But yeah--the Borg were thoroughly explored in Voyager. Let's get a new anti-Federation menace. Either explore minor races or develop new ones. Even the Romulans, Klingons and Cardassians--Star Trek's tradition antagonistic races--have largely been one-dimensional. The best alien races, and the best stories in Star Trek, are the ones that ultimately pit Federation ideals against human nature. That's why DS9's Dominion War had some of the best moments in Star Trek history.

One of the too-few great things about Enterprise was the Xindi, a coalition of multiple races that evolved on the same planet. The first time I heard about them I wondered how it never had occurred to me before, having more than one alien race from a single planet. Well, it kind of occurred to me; it wasn't an entirely new concept. But the Xindi were interesting, and it's too bad they were just bad guys.

[Sevenforce]

I hope they avoid the Borg like the Plague.  IMO the Borg started out as a great idea that alluded to old skool sci-fi but then went completely to crap.

Spoiler

Now that the franchise has gone in this new direction what will it do for the spread of the Klingon Empire...no Romulans to keep them in check.

Spoiler

I hope you mean Vulcans

Actually, for Trek fans, I'm surprised at the amount of confusion this has generated. Romulus was destroyed in timeline B, the future, but having returned to the past and created timeline A, the past onwards, Romulus is no longer annihilated. It may still be annihilated in an as yet unforseen future, but its still there right now.

Vulcan, however, was less of a 'big player' in the intergalactic wars than most other planets. They are in 'the background', as such, more of a diplomatic position and a policy of non-interference than anything else. I don't think it'll affect the overall arc of history TOO much, but then again, I'm not an encyclopedia of Vulcan interactions, so there could probably be some huge spark off due to something that happened in season 2 episode 12 of TOS

Oh, and yes, avoid the Borg. They were nice to begin with, but First Contact and Voyager made them overused and boring, IMO. I did like the Elite Force games, though

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Spoiler

The Vulcans are responsible for much of Federation technology, so it could mean a less advanced future for the federation, as well as most Vulcan characters appearing in all the series never being born or having died.  It also drastically reduces the overall population of the Federation and of Starfleet, since Vulcans were the second most common Starfleet race.

And since the technology needed to save Romulus also comes from the Vulcans, it means by killing Vulcan, the bad guy pretty much guaranteed that Romulus will be destroyed in this timeline too.

[Ares_God_of_War]

Spoiler

I see your point there Cat. But also with old Spock we may see a slight increase in the tech at first if he is willing to give some of the knowledge and other equations he already knows now to the current Federation. So really we could see a relative BOOM in tech then a stagnation to where we were or even before or we could see other advancements earlier.

[Sevenforce]

What I wanna know is, where were the time police guys from Voyager when you need them?

[Spring Heeled Jack]

Vulcans were a large part of getting the Federation up to speed technologically, but the 24th Century saw humans grow into themselves as a prime mover of Federation policy and culture. Earth's engineers are revered even in the Dominion.

It's been a long time since the Federation had to lean on any particular race to get along. And it's not that the Vulcans have been marginalized--they just aren't pulling all the strings anymore.

This is getting a bit confusing. Some of us are talking about Kirk's era, and some of us are talking about the 24th Century. And I'm just running back and forth, commenting on anything that passes.

[marhawkman]

I kind asee where he's going but I also see vulcans as a whole ebing content to let other people do the actual work. Now? who knows what the destruction of their homeworld has given them the incentive to do.

[Podmark]

Personally I think a new war with the Klingons is the way to go. Or go with something new or underused like the Tholians or something.

[Spring Heeled Jack]

Good idea, Podmark. In the next movie, it'd be cool to see the Klingon Empire using the Vulcan tragedy as an opportunity to conquer the Federation.

[Talavar]

I think in the timeline of the new movie we'll see more advanced technology - after all Nero's advanced ship was hanging out in the past for 25 years waiting for Spock to show up; they had to come into contact with other people occasionally, and even that slight contact could give people ideas of where to take technology, as well as their weapon systems.  Oh, plus Old Spock's whirligig ship survived, didn't it?

[Podmark]

Oh, plus Old Spock's whirligig ship survived, didn't it?

Spoiler

Didn't Spock crash it into Nero's ship?

[Spring Heeled Jack]

Yup. And it was called Jellyfish. WTF?

[Ajax]

Diora Baird aka Green Alien Babe, needs a bigger role in the future sequel. 

Wasn't she on one of those non-enterprise ships that got destroyed?