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[yell0w_lantern]

So, it's a play on words, huh? I hadn't thought of that.

[Gremlin]

Very true. SO! AA! Gonna try anything with that Quitely-esque style again? I'd love to see something like that applied to Supes. I loved his work on All-Star Superman.

[Blkcasanova247]

 Please...no. No more Quitely! Your skins in your style.

[AfghanAnt]

Very true. SO! AA! Gonna try anything with that Quitely-esque style again? I'd love to see something like that applied to Supes. I loved his work on All-Star Superman.

I've thought about that and I might end up redoing Super-Lois and probably that white costume Superman wore in All. It would be a completely different from my current Superman skope. Quitely's work is so about proportions and I've like to capture that if I could.

Please...no. No more Quitely! Your skins in your style.

I really think his All Star Superman stuff was stellar but I completely understand when people say they don't like Quitely's work. It is like me and Perez. I get it but it just looks so dated though I have to admit I loved those cover for Legion of Three Worlds.

[stumpy]

Some people who don't like Quitely's Superman have complained that he's not quite as hard cut as is some depictions ("he's too lumpy") and a little hunched over. There is some truth to that. (And I don't know if that style is broadly characteristic of Quitely's art or if it's an adaptation for that book.) But, I think that's part of the genius of All Star Superman. Superman can relax.

I mean, he's Superman. Of course, we know him for his heroics in dangerous situations, of the sort where the fate of all life on Earth depends on him saving the day by flying at the speed of light into a red sun with a 50 gigaton kryptonite bomb strapped to his back. But, in the course of the normal day, there really is very little that can actually harm him. He doesn't cross at the crosswalk so that a careless truck doesn't hurt him; he crosses there so that he doesn't hurt the truck. So, it's not like he would be constantly tensed and ready for action. He isn't out to impress anyone and he isn't worried about people thinking he's just some sad sack.

He's been around for years and survived more scrapes with death than the Reaper's scythe salesman. He's saved the world a thousand times and he's probably the most powerful person on the planet (maybe well beyond). And, frankly, if anything ever does take him out, is there any doubt whether he'll end up with wings or horns? No. So who cares if he is relaxed and doesn't keep perfect posture 24-7? Nothing scares him and he's earned it. I think the somewhat "slumpy and lumpy" approach really complimented that relaxed aspect if the character in the All Star book.

[laughing paradox]

Very true. SO! AA! Gonna try anything with that Quitely-esque style again? I'd love to see something like that applied to Supes. I loved his work on All-Star Superman.

I've thought about that and I might end up redoing Super-Lois and probably that white costume Superman wore in All. It would be a completely different from my current Superman skope. Quitely's work is so about proportions and I've like to capture that if I could.

Please...no. No more Quitely! Your skins in your style.

I understand what you mean about Perez, but I really think it's a matter of who his inker is... it could make his pencils look so much better. And yeah.. current Legion is phenomenal. Are you still doing the main three?

I really think his All Star Superman stuff was stellar but I completely understand when people say they don't like Quitely's work. It is like me and Perez. I get it but it just looks so dated though I have to admit I loved those cover for Legion of Three Worlds.

[AfghanAnt]

The quote just got crazy but yup I want to do the original three Legionnaires.

[Zapow]

I am most surprised at your comment, Zap. Was that even called for?

Why? IPS made a non-situation into a situation by his behavior and attitude.

[Gremlin]

AA--Ooh, that'd be cool. I'd love to see your take on it! I love the detail you put into your work...I mean, here you are talking about capturing Quitely's proportions. Heh.

Stumpy--That's a cool take. I hadn't thought of it in that aspect. I tend to be more story-centric when it comes to comics so I don't notice how visualizations aid characterization. It's exactly the opposite of the Samaritan from Astro City, who's tense as a coiled spring because he's always at the top of his game. You know what'd be an interesting analysis? All-Star Superman and Apollo from Quitely's run on the Authority.

[Hairy Hindu]

SpectreLad is being away on most glorious Gonja Spititual Journey and he give me and Gonja God watching over his FreedomForceResource. Tank you for hitting FreedomForceResource berry much.

[BentonGrey]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/superman-images/AlexRossSupdesk.jpg

Supes can definitely relax from time to time.

[AfghanAnt]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/superman-images/AlexRossSupdesk.jpg

Supes can definitely relax from time to time.

He certainly looks lumpy. 

[Mystik]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/superman-images/AlexRossSupdesk.jpg

Supes can definitely relax from time to time.

He certainly looks lumpy. 

ugh i hate ross. every hero he draws looks like the same 45 yr old man.
dont like frank either- he draws ugly people (emma frost and superwoman looked butt ugly)

[BentonGrey]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/superman-images/AlexRossSupdesk.jpg

Supes can definitely relax from time to time.

He certainly looks lumpy. 

ugh i hate ross. every hero he draws looks like the same 45 yr old man.
dont like frank either- he draws ugly people (emma frost and superwoman looked butt ugly)

That's not true at all!  Here, this is obviously a 35 year old woman:

http://www.fictionmachine.com/images/wonderwoman.jpg

Seriously though, I have always thought that one of the great things Ross does is make his characters really distinctive, as far as faces go.  Superman looks different than Batman, much different from Ray Palmer, Carter Hall, or Aquaman.  I agree that he goes a bit too far on the chunky side from time to time....but I still love the guy's art.

[deano_ue]

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/characters/superman-images/AlexRossSupdesk.jpg

Supes can definitely relax from time to time.

He certainly looks lumpy. 

ugh i hate ross. every hero he draws looks like the same 45 yr old man.
dont like frank either- he draws ugly people (emma frost and superwoman looked butt ugly)

That's not true at all!  Here, this is obviously a 35 year old woman:

http://www.fictionmachine.com/images/wonderwoman.jpg

Seriously though, I have always thought that one of the great things Ross does is make his characters really distinctive, as far as faces go.  Superman looks different than Batman, much different from Ray Palmer, Carter Hall, or Aquaman.  I agree that he goes a bit too far on the chunky side from time to time....but I still love the guy's art.

gotta disagree with you there BG, i respect ross as an artist but really a lot of his faces are the same with different masks

http://www.jeffpidgeon.com/uploaded_images/JusticeLeague-AlexRoss-706881.jpg

they've all got the same chin and face, his bats is superman in a batman mask, this is mostly cause he uses the same model for most of the characters

[Podmark]

Oh geez his Wonder Woman and Supes have the same face in that pic!

[BentonGrey]

*shakes head* Philistines.

[deano_ue]

i'll stick with my adam hughes and terry dodson women thank you very much

[Gremlin]

i'll stick with my adam hughes and terry dodson women thank you very much

Why, yes. Yes indeed.

[detourne_me]

not to mention Frank Cho

[freedomgod55]

and about aa's x-men skins he was doing is best ok so like them or not it takes a lot of art skills to skin give him a break please

[DrMike2000]

i'll stick with my adam hughes and terry dodson women thank you very much

While we're here, I have never quite got Terry Dodson.

The strange V-shaped faces like the central line has been sheared down relative to the outsides, and the concave jaw curves that give his women this kind of feline appearance just doesnt do it for me.

And Alex Ross always looks over-finished to me. In fact, I think I've discovered some kind of profound art-anti-art theory here by mentally comparing him to Kevin Maguire of bwah-ha-ha Justice League fame.

Alex Ross and Kevin Maguire are polar opposites - all finish vs all foundation. Discuss if you will..

[Gremlin]

i'll stick with my adam hughes and terry dodson women thank you very much

While we're here, I have never quite got Terry Dodson.

The strange V-shaped faces like the central line has been sheared down relative to the outsides, and the concave jaw curves that give his women this kind of feline appearance just doesnt do it for me.

And Alex Ross always looks over-finished to me. In fact, I think I've discovered some kind of profound art-anti-art theory here by mentally comparing him to Kevin Maguire of bwah-ha-ha Justice League fame.

Alex Ross and Kevin Maguire are polar opposites - all finish vs all foundation. Discuss if you will..

They should work together to make a comic that would annihilate the universe.

[detourne_me]

They should work together to make a comic that would annihilate the universe.

Hmmn, reminds me of the David Mazzuchelli (spelling... i don't know)
The artist that did Batman:Year One with Frank Miller.
In my hardcover version, David has an endword in comic format, discussing comic book art.  He draws an amazing sequence about how the art shouldn't be so realistic, because it would look ridiculous... and oh man that panel is funny,  it looks like Alex Ross art with a Kevin Macquire background.

[daglob]

i'll stick with my adam hughes and terry dodson women thank you very much

While we're here, I have never quite got Terry Dodson.

The strange V-shaped faces like the central line has been sheared down relative to the outsides, and the concave jaw curves that give his women this kind of feline appearance just doesnt do it for me.

And Alex Ross always looks over-finished to me. In fact, I think I've discovered some kind of profound art-anti-art theory here by mentally comparing him to Kevin Maguire of bwah-ha-ha Justice League fame.

Alex Ross and Kevin Maguire are polar opposites - all finish vs all foundation. Discuss if you will..

They should work together to make a comic that would annihilate the universe.

Didn't they both work on Worlld's Funnest?

[Spectre Lad]

Boo.

Link removed for inappropriate material.

[BentonGrey]

It seems that the language has gone into the definitely-not-kid-friendly territory there, SL!

Nonetheless, welcome back.

[murs47]

awwwwwwww ya! FFR is back!

[bearded]

questions:
1.  what is 4chan?
2.  who is considered 'elite'?  am i elite?  if i'm not;
3.  you could use my ghost keyframes as a start for an avatar.  i'd be willing to make other shapes. 
4.  do you have a spectre lad description?

[Gremlin]

1.  what is 4chan?

You don't want to know.

Yay! I'm excited to see this return!