Batman v Superman

[thalaw2]

Set for release in 2015, this sequel is to be directed by Snyder and written by David S. Goyer featuring two of WB/DC's most iconic superheroes and is certain to compete with Marvel.

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Time to drool. 

[oldmanwinters]

Dare we dream for a Lex Luther-Joker team-up?

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

It's actually a good move.  With other DC movie franchise attempts failing and the Justice League film not going anywhere, doing a Batman/Superman movie is the next best thing and is very much an old tradition anyways.  I just hope they don't mess this one up.

[Courtnall6]

Can we expect a brief Superman VS Batman tussle? I think so! Will Superman be absent a brain so Batman can "have a chance" during said tussle? Sadly, I know so.

[bat1987]

It's actually a good move.  With other DC movie franchise attempts failing and the Justice League film not going anywhere, doing a Batman/Superman movie is the next best thing and is very much an old tradition anyways.  I just hope they don't mess this one up.

This. I've always thought Superman/Batman movie was the way to go for the reasons you already listed. Hoping for a good Batman cast as well.

[deano_ue]

ohhhhh happy dance, happy dance

lets hope this starts the building blocks. and i will hunt down any body to do with the movie if this scene does not appear end of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90nxOlsm1s



also is it just me or is it taken jimmies by WB to introduce a new batman in a superman movie. at least we wont have to deal with the origin again

[Podmark]

Great news. I'll be very interested in who is playing the new Batman.

[BentonGrey]

I really, REALLY wish I could be excited about this.  I would LOVE to see a really great World's Finest movie.  I love both these characters, and I really love the friendship that has defined them and their universe.  It's always been really cool to me that the two flagship heroes of the DCU, despite being so different in their approaches to what they do, were still the best of friends.

Yet, WB has squandered any good will I had towards their movies.  The fact that Snyder is attached to this has me considering just skipping it altogether.  After what he pushed for in the Superman movie, I don't think I want to see any more of this films.

Cat is right, though, in that this is a less brain-dead move than WB has heretofore tried.  It's a shame they can't get their collective acts together, though.

[oldmanwinters]

I really, REALLY wish I could be excited about this.  I would LOVE to see a really great World's Finest movie.  I love both these characters, and I really love the friendship that has defined them and their universe.  It's always been really cool to me that the two flagship heroes of the DCU, despite being so different in their approaches to what they do, were still the best of friends.

Yet, WB has squandered any good will I had towards their movies.  The fact that Snyder is attached to this has me considering just skipping it altogether.  After what he pushed for in the Superman movie, I don't think I want to see any more of this films.

Cat is right, though, in that this is a less brain-dead move than WB has heretofore tried.  It's a shame they can't get their collective acts together, though.

Sadly, I'm in the same boat you are, Benton.

[steamteck]

I'm not. I loved loved loved MOS as did my really hard to please wife  so the we are doing the happy dance.

[Shogunn2517]

Not that I want to say I called it but...

Shogunn2517
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Re: Justice League, assemble as well, or why Warner Bros should die in a fire
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 06:04:59 AM »
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To be perfectly honest, I don't want to see it.  There's no way they are going to not be compared to The Avengers and if they don't do anywhere near as good, which they won't do, it'll be considered a failure.

I think because they'd have to introduce the characters, almost having to do prequel movies they'd be hard press to garner the interest on a long term basis.  The Avengers, again, was unprecedented.  We bidder our time because we didn't think it was possible until pretty much when the credits on Captain America rolled.

That said, I'd much rather see a "Worlds Finest" or Superman/Batman movie.  They don't have to introduce the characters.  They are two characters arguably bigger and more well know than any Marvel character.  Both of them have a history of well performing films, they're indeed bankable characters.  Not to mention the story lines they can take are endless.  And it doesn't mean the movie HAS to be limited to just those two heroes.  It almost make sense to open up the universe.  That's one thing the Avengers did, but unlike the Avengers which melded 4 franchises into one, it's not even trying to scale itself n that level.

I called it.

[BentonGrey]

Pure excellence:
http://youtu.be/3B96ctffVp8

[hoss20]

Benton, that was freakin' hilarious.

[bat1987]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/02/rumor-next-movie-batman-will-be-middle-aged-veteran-superhero

Jon Hamm is by far my favourite choice for Bats.

[Shogunn2517]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/man-steel-2s-batman-actors-598856

Sorry, Bats.  No Hamm on this short list.

But look on the bright side.  I remember when John Krasinski was a lock to play Captain America.

[Midnite]

Batman: Arkham Origins : Batman Legends Skins Pack

[Tomato]

Batman: Arkham Origins : Batman Legends Skins Pack

Errr.... wrong thread maybe?

[bat1987]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/man-steel-2s-batman-actors-598856

Sorry, Bats.  No Hamm on this short list.

But look on the bright side.  I remember when John Krasinski was a lock to play Captain America.

Ya things change, so who knows . I really think Gosling would be a terrible choice though. Out of those guys, Brolin can pull it off IMO, but not sure they'll go with him after Jonah Hex, heh.

[BWPS]

I  can't see  Don Draper as Batman. Yet at the same time I'd love to see him as Batman.

None of the guys on that list seem right.  I think they should bring back George Clooney,  he deserves a second chance.

[Cyber Burn]

I  can't see  Don Draper as Batman. Yet at the same time I'd love to see him as Batman.

None of the guys on that list seem right.  I think they should bring back George Clooney,  he deserves a second chance.

Maybe 20 years ago I would have agreed with that, but realistically, he what, in his mid-50's, could he really handle the physicality of the character?

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Wait another couple of decades and he could play the role in a Batman Beyond movie.  Other than that, yeah, his time's a bit past there.

[bat1987]

Wow
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-dark-knight-reprises-christian-bale-reportedly-offered-50m-to-return-as-batman-in-man-of-steel-2-8760943.html

Wonder if he'll accept it? Some times actors say things like I won't do this anymore etc, but when offered lots of money many of them change their mind.
Tbh I'd rather they go with someone else this time, but Bale being there will def be good for the film's box office numbers.

[spydermann93]

Wow
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-dark-knight-reprises-christian-bale-reportedly-offered-50m-to-return-as-batman-in-man-of-steel-2-8760943.html

Wonder if he'll accept it? Some times actors say things like I won't do this anymore etc, but when offered lots of money many of them change their mind.
Tbh I'd rather they go with someone else this time, but Bale being there will def be good for the film's box office numbers.

I find this to be a bad decision.  Sure, he's the popular Batman right now and most people would rather see him return rather than see a new Batman, but as far as I'm concerned, Bale is done as the Bat.  The Dark Knight Rises was supposed to be the final chapter, his retirement.  The extents that The Dark Knight Rises to make it a point that Wayne's career as Batman was over was pretty obvious to me.  If that's not what the movie was about, Wayne passing on his legacy after one final fight, then I don't know what Christopher Nolan was trying to do.  Yes, Batman is an ever-vigilant hero in the comics, but in those films, his part is done and it is just shameful to see them reel him back in for profit.

Still, I'd be interested in seeing what could be done with a returning or new Batman, but as of now, I'm still against this idea.

[thalaw2]

Wow
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-dark-knight-reprises-christian-bale-reportedly-offered-50m-to-return-as-batman-in-man-of-steel-2-8760943.html

Wonder if he'll accept it? Some times actors say things like I won't do this anymore etc, but when offered lots of money many of them change their mind.
Tbh I'd rather they go with someone else this time, but Bale being there will def be good for the film's box office numbers.

I find this to be a bad decision.  Sure, he's the popular Batman right now and most people would rather see him return rather than see a new Batman, but as far as I'm concerned, Bale is done as the Bat.  The Dark Knight Rises was supposed to be the final chapter, his retirement.  The extents that The Dark Knight Rises to make it a point that Wayne's career as Batman was over was pretty obvious to me.  If that's not what the movie was about, Wayne passing on his legacy after one final fight, then I don't know what Christopher Nolan was trying to do.  Yes, Batman is an ever-vigilant hero in the comics, but in those films, his part is done and it is just shameful to see them reel him back in for profit.

Still, I'd be interested in seeing what could be done with a returning or new Batman, but as of now, I'm still against this idea.

I have to say that I don't agree spydermann93.  To me your argument is like saying we shouldn't hear Kevin Conroy do the voice of Batman in any other DC movies outside of Batman TAS.  However, Keven Conroy has done the voice in dozens of DC movies including Flashpoint Paradox in which the Batman he's doing is totally different from the one in Batman TAS.  Like Conroy, Christian Bale is an actor and we should be careful not to associate his portrayal of batman to just those three films. 

I understand this is a money move by DC and I don't have a problem with that as long as they deliver a good movie.  I don't want to some second rate Batman when i can see a guy I like in the role. IMO there doesn't even have ot be much reference to the 3 Batman movies. 

[Tomato]

I'm sorry, but there's a very big difference between having a voice actor come back to do products as the same character, and having the same actor return to the same part. With Kevin Conroy coming back, you don't have to worry about people constantly questioning what happened to make TAS batman into flashpoint batman or Arkham Batman... mostly because the people who watch those videos and play those games understand that they are not supposed to be the same universe, and we can accept that they're separate entities.

Bale coming back as batman, within the same decade as the last film? Your normal, everyday filmgoer will go in assuming it's the same batman. And if it IS the same batman (this is the same audience that glorified Twilight and Transformers. The intelligence bar is not high), why is he batman? Did he come back? If he did, how did he get all his equipment and money back? Did he steal it from Robin? What happened to all the injuries and stuff he went through? What happened to Catwoman, did he dump her? Is he stupid? Has he just been working behind the scenes? If so, why wasn't he involved in the events of Man of Steel?

Or, is this supposed to be a Batman prior to his retirement? If so, it would have to be before TDK, because he wasn't batman between TDK and TDKR. If it is before, why does he look older than in TDK or TDKR? Why does he have a different costume, even though his TDK costume was established at the start of the film?

It just raises too many questions.

The Dark Knight trilogy is over. It said what Nolan wanted to be said, and it's done.

[thalaw2]

Geez, Tomato.  You point out that the people watching the movie may have a low IQ, but you sure have them raising a lot of questions...why wouldn't they just say "Bale...whatta hunk!"  Do kids say hunk anymore? 

[Tomato]

I'm just saying, at a minimum, you'll have a ton of fans who would be going into the film going into the film expecting this to be the same character they've watched for 3 films now... and logically, there is no way that it can be the same person.

[Podmark]

It wouldn't bother me if Bale reprises the role, but I'm cool with someone new too. None of the live action Batman's have been perfect in my opinion.

I can see where you're coming from Tomato, there is a big chunk of the audience that will be thrown off, but I think this is a situation where they're going to be thrown off any way WB goes. Either way you have to explain that it's a different Batman (or how it fits into the old continuity), and if it's a new actor then the audience needs to get used to the new actor.
Personally I hope they just do it as "this is a story with a Batman in it" and not try to link it or unlink it to any new or existing continuity. We all know who Batman is, just tell the story.

[detourne_me]

Ben Affleck everybody, Ben Affleck.

Not too sure how this will turn out.  Affleck has been killing it lately, and he might convince Snyder to allow some actual acting.

[BentonGrey]

Well, you beat me to it, DM.  My thoughts are...less hopeful than yours:

Well, this is an impressive feat. WB has ruined this movie before it even began production. I mean, I knew they were good at making truly, TRULY awful decisions, but this is really an impressive level of terribleness that they've reached. It must take great diligence and effort to succeed at failing so hard. I can only assume that this is the result of decades of hard work at being souless, money-grubbing empty suits, but I assume that there was also a great deal of blunt-force head-trauma involved somewhere.

At least they've taken away the suspense, that tiny, flickering, sputtering ember of hope that persists in the face of all past experience and common sense, that little voice inside your head that whispers, "but, it might still be good!" They've successfully managed to stamp that ember out entirely. I suppose I should thank them for that.

So yeah, I'm not excited.  I don't despise Ben Affleck, and he's occasionally quite good, but he's 100% wrong for this on pretty much every level.