Batman v Superman

[BentonGrey]

Alex, GL is certainly not on the same level as the worst comic book movies, but it's definitely one of the weak rank of DC movies.  It's not bad, per se, just thoroughly mediocre.

[spydermann93]

Hey, guys!

They just released the first pic of Superman for "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice"!

[Tomato]

 

I would take the above rumors about Zsasz and the rest with a heavy grain of salt. The news organization who broke the story is ALSO the one responsible for saying that Lex Luthor would be a tattooed up ex-gang member, and all on-set reports have him as a nerd who drinks 20 cups of coffee a day and is running the DC Universe equivalent of Google/Facebook.

[Tomato]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olMzIbkB0nI -I've seen shots of the Old suit and new suit compared with each other, but this youtube video really breaks down the subtle differences between the two suits, there's a lot of smal details they packed into is that I appreciated.

[Midnite]

Comparison of the two suits.




Here's another version of the BvS: Dawn of Justice Superman suit.

Spoiler

[stumpy]

I would love to see CCH Pounder as Amanda Waller. What a great character. As a senator, she could be anything from an ally, interested observer, or behind-the-scenes antagonist in the first movie. And, like most people who have seen it, I think the Cadmus arc in JLU would make an excellent, compelling storyline for a future JL movie. Of course, whoever plays Amanda Waller (assuming that she ends up being a character in the movies), if she is to be a US senator, especially one of any stature, it will seem a bit odd if the actor is only 30 years old.

[JeyNyce]

Hey, guys!

They just released the first pic of Superman for "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice"!

It's okay Bruce, I'll be your friend.....

[BentonGrey]

I would love to see CCH Pounder as Amanda Waller. What a great character. As a senator, she could be anything from an ally, interested observer, or behind-the-scenes antagonist in the first movie. And, like most people who have seen it, I think the Cadmus arc in JLU would make an excellent, compelling storyline for a future JL movie. Of course, whoever plays Amanda Waller (assuming that she ends up being a character in the movies), if she is to be a US senator, especially one of any stature, it will seem a bit odd if the actor is only 30 years old.

Not that something like that has ever stopped Hollywood in the past.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Yet another thing in favor of Pounder.  She's just about the perfect age for a senior senator.

[Shogunn2517]

Yet another thing in favor of Pounder.  She's just about the perfect age for a senior senator.

Off topic and not really relevant, but the senior in the Senior Senator title does not signify age.  It's a matter of which of a state's two senators were elected first.

Sorry, don't mean to be too technical.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Yet another thing in favor of Pounder.  She's just about the perfect age for a senior senator.

Off topic and not really relevant, but the senior in the Senior Senator title does not signify age.  It's a matter of which of a state's two senators were elected first.

Sorry, don't mean to be too technical.

If I had, in fact, been referring to the title "Senior Senator" when used to differentiate between the two senators of a given state, you would be correct.  Since I was, in fact, referring to a Senator who is a Senior in the sense of having been around long enough to scour important chairmanships and be in charge of things--like Waller would have to be--then you are incorrect.

Same term, more than one meaning.

[Shogunn2517]

So.... you are just referring to her age?  And not her office?

[Tomato]

He's referring to the fact that she's theoretically been a senator long enough to have made the types of connections and gained the amount of power she supposedly has.

Again, I think this is all moot (the news source that revealed this is the same one that claimed we were gonna have a tatooed, ex-thug Lex Luthor, so they're not exactly the most accurate) but wevs.

[JeyNyce]

As much as I would love to have CCH Pounder in the movie as Waller that would kill any chances of Arrow & Flash being in the same universe as Supes and Bats, unless they try to go the Nick Fury route and she has a daughter with the same name.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

As much as I would love to have CCH Pounder in the movie as Waller that would kill any chances of Arrow & Flash being in the same universe as Supes and Bats, unless they try to go the Nick Fury route and she has a daughter with the same name.

I don't see that as a possibility anyway.

He's referring to the fact that she's theoretically been a senator long enough to have made the types of connections and gained the amount of power she supposedly has.

Exactly.  Senators with power are typically in their 50's or 60's or even older.  Power and influence takes time.

[Talavar]

As much as I would love to have CCH Pounder in the movie as Waller that would kill any chances of Arrow & Flash being in the same universe as Supes and Bats

Which is probably for the best.

[bat1987]

Noooooooooooooo! Oh well, c´est la vie.

[BWPS]

I'm glad. I love Arrow and would hate to see it be forced to follow the rules of what I believe will be a disappointing movie universe. Now if only they'd let the Arrowverse have its own versions of Batman and Superman.

[John Jr.]

Look, it's BatAffleck.
Nice mask, I hope the rest of the costume looks so good.



More here:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/24/dc-gives-us-our-closest-look-yet-at-ben-affleck-as-batman/

[trebean]

Is this sculpt legit?

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

The caption says that it's just a guess based on descriptions they got, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.  Mask of the real one looks cool, though.

[Silver Shocker]

and all on-set reports have him as a nerd who drinks 20 cups of coffee a day and is running the DC Universe equivalent of Google/Facebook.

Seriously?

So he's LITERALLY Mark Zuckerberg as Lex Luthor.

*throws up hands* I give up people. We could have had Heisenberg. And we HAD Spacey last time, but his direction was all WRONG! Yaknow, I would really like to see at least ONE of these Superman movies have a TAS/modern comic style Luthor. How sad is it that SMALLVILLE had the best Luthor? I guess I'll have to settle for the inevitable animated movie of Forever Evil.

Those Batfleck pics looked consistently bada$$. So much so that I'm not entirely confident he'll look nearly that cool in the real movie.

I'd be all for Pounder as Waller. She's been been consistently great every time she voiced that character, and none of the live action actresses we've had before left much off an impression on me.

*edit* But seriously guys. This movie's casting so far has been going WAY to seamlessly. We need to....*licks lips*. Introduce a little anarchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlT_lBYW8KE

*posts link to completely wild card casting choice* I'm a man of my wooooord. *laughs hysterically*

[stumpy]

So he's LITERALLY Mark Zuckerberg as Lex Luthor.

I'm pretty sure that's figuratively. 

I'd agree that Lex Luthor as an villainous Internet entrepreneur doesn't sound especially compelling. But, when the character is done well, it kind of doesn't matter what sort of professional background they give him. It does seem like the actor for that role should come across as smart, ultra-competent, and menacing. I haven't seen Eisenberg in that role yet, but I haven't seen much of him at all. I was intrigued by the earlier rumors that Bradley Cooper might get the role.

I loved that Bill Murray link. Quick Change was an awesome movie.

[Silver Shocker]

Well, I guess that was hyperbole on my part. I just got a little carried I guess. I just don't see why the "Bada$$ Superman" movies need to have Hipster Luthor when the guy from the cartoons and comics was already pretty cool. And to fair, I am aware that Luthor was drinking energy drinks in Grant Morrison's New 52 issues. That kind of "hip new take" wasn't present in Forever Evil and I loved Luthor in that book.

I really would love to give Eisenberg the benefit of the doubt, but 1. They don't seem to be interested in making him Luthor to begin with. and 2. These DC movies that aren't Batman haven't built up the good will that Batman Begins and the Marvel movies had before Ledger, Evans and whoever else. I didn't really like anyone in Man of Steel (except Lawrence Fishbourne, and he wasn't doing anything special) and this movie's already got too many dudes on the dance floor, if you'll pardon the groan-inducing analogy.

I loved that Bill Murray link. Quick Change was an awesome movie.

I may have to watch that one day. It looks like it'd be extremely entertaining.

[abenavides]

I'm not a fan of Eisenberg either , but re: hipster Luthor - as long as he's not living in Brooklyn and having brunch throughout the movie, it doesn't bother me too much .

Quick Change was a fantastic movie! So underrated.

[abenavides]

Just saw the discussion about senator ages above .
Probably doesn't apply , but anyone else remember that the DC universe used to have a US law that allowed Barbara Gordon to be a Congresswoman at a young age?

(This was Pre-crisis )

Re:GL - agree it's not at the top of the DC movie food chain. Didn't like Hammond's role in it , parallax could have been handled better story-wise (essence of fear and all that ), not a big Blake lively fan, etc.

But fx were excellent, the GL origin was there , time on OA was great , Sinestro was good also, etc.

So yes, far from perfect , but for me anyway, a fun superhero flick .

[BentonGrey]

Just saw the discussion about senator ages above .
Probably doesn't apply , but anyone else remember that the DC universe used to have a US law that allowed Barbara Gordon to be a Congresswoman at a young age?

(This was Pre-crisis )

Yeah, I actually just read that story as I was making my way through Detective Comics!

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

That version of Luthor really isn't that bad really.  Modern Luthor is a corrupt buisinessman with his hands in everything.  Once upon a time, that would be in industrialist, but who are the big buisinesses with their hands in everything that people look ominously at?  Facebook, Google, and other tech giants, that's who.  It makes perfect sense and could be a logical change if handled well.

[BentonGrey]

Ehh, I don't know.  Hippsters can't be intimidating, they can only be infuriating.   Ha, whereas folks may be a bit uncomfortable with the tech giants these days, they still don't seem quite as generically and frighteningly evil as the gigantic, heartless mega-corporation of fiction and reality.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

People in my circles do.  Recording folks private information as a matter of course, influencing the government which relies in its information to find terrorist and criminals, photographing and recording everyone's home and private life, controlling the most advanced tech of every kind.  Now immagine an evil man like Luthor controlling a Google like tech giant like that.  Can get anyone arrested his wants simply by giving the government fake digital records making them look like a pedophile or a terrorists.  Blackmailing anyone he wants.  Looking at anyone's home he wants to and having real time information on whoever he wants to control or intimidate.  That's actually much more frightening that the heartless mega-corporation.  One has a lot of power.  The other simple controls everything.