Batman v Superman

[Tomato]

I'm with Cat... the idea of something like Google or Facebook in the hands of someone like Lex Luthor is freaking terrifying. Facebook, for example, has software that can take photos from your profile, create a digital version of your face, and then automatically tag photos that you're in. And it's not just a guestimate either... the software is supposedly upwards of 90% accurate.

Compare that with the power these companies wield politically: People pat themselves on the back about how we stopped that horrible HIPPA bill, but the reality is, we did nothing. A bunch of idiot internet geeks mean nothing to the powers that be compared to the entertainment industry. But then Google and Facebook came in and then suddenly, no more HIPPA. The might of the entire entertainment industry was pushing for that bill and it was not enough to counter the will of Google.

[Midnite]

Official Hi-Res Wonder Woman Photo and Description of Teaser Trailer

[spydermann93]

I wish that I could make out the details of the costume a bit more, but it doesn't look half-bad as of right now.

[Midnite]

I wish that I could make out the details of the costume a bit more, but it doesn't look half-bad as of right now.

Updated!

[spydermann93]

Awesome!

If they added a bit more color to it, I think that it will be perfect!

[JeyNyce]

Costume needs a nit more color, but besides that, it looks great.  She still doesn't look like Wonder Woman though.  Does anybody know how good is her acting skills?

[spydermann93]

Does anybody know how good is her acting skills?

I don't.  All I know is that she was in some of the "Fast & Furious" movies.

[Podmark]

That...looks pretty great! A little more colour might be nice, but that could just be the lighting anyway. And a warrior version of the costume doesn't need to be bright and colourful now anyway in my opinion.

Anyway, very impressed with that image.

[Shogunn2517]

Not that I want to poo-poo anyone's opinion on the lack of color in GG's costume, but I can understand Snyder's decision to tone down the red, white and blue.  She's from Themyscira, not Kansas.  Perhaps he wants her to be seen as just a heroine and not an American Trademark.

I think she looks FANTASTIC.  Actually much better than I could have hoped.

[spydermann93]

Not that I want to poo-poo anyone's opinion on the lack of color in GG's costume, but I can understand Snyder's decision to tone down the red, white and blue.  She's from Themyscira, not Kansas.  Perhaps he wants her to be seen as just a heroine and not an American Trademark.

Very good points.  I'm not too engrossed in her being an "American Trademark", but perhaps some sort of accenting on the armor.  Her armor is a bit too brown to me (but that could just be the image itself ).

Actually much better than I could have hoped.

I definitely agree with you, there.  While I still think that her armor could use a bit more color, I would not be upset if she kept this look.

[Shogunn2517]

Not that I want to poo-poo anyone's opinion on the lack of color in GG's costume, but I can understand Snyder's decision to tone down the red, white and blue.  She's from Themyscira, not Kansas.  Perhaps he wants her to be seen as just a heroine and not an American Trademark.

Very good points.  I'm not too eqngrossed in her being an "American Trademark", but perhaps some sort of accenting on the armor.  Her armor is a bit too brown to me (but that could just be the image itself ).

Actually much better than I could have hoped.

I definitely agree with you, there.  While I still think that her armor could use a bit more color, I would not be upset if she kept this look.

Noted.  Honestly though, I think it COULD be the lighting.

[abenavides]

She looks great.

At some point in her history , I think WW's story reason for red, white and blue was to appeal to the USA where she chose to make contact with man's world.

So maybe she gets a more colorful option later plot-wise.
But I'm perfectly fine with her looking like a warrior .

[stumpy]

Regarding Lex: It's a good point that the tech giants of today are suitable results and targets of corporate empire-building, so it would be no surprise for Luthor to be at one's head. And, all of that data in the wrong hands could certainly be put to ill use. Of course, along those lines, the scariest thing might be for Luthor to be running the NSA.

(BTW, I was perfectly happy with the pre-Crisis Lex whose business machinations were centered around his role as a scientist who saw himself playing by an alternative set of moral rules. Of course, some argue that the "mad scientist" archetype is overdone in comics. But, Lex was an early example of the type and it would be fine if he kept it. The Lex from All-Star Superman pulled it off quite well. And, if being a simplistic stereotype or cliche is a problem, then there is hardly a bigger one than "evil corporate overlord.")


Regarding that pic: http://www.dcuopost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/BvS-Wonder-Woman.jpg: It's a good look for a warrior character. I think she would look more like a superhero if the costume had more color. Either way, whether because of the costume or the actor, she isn't immediately recognizable as Wonder Woman, IMO. But, it's early days.

BTW, I think the idea behind the red, white, and blue elements in the WW costume was that the princess was acting as an ambassador from Themyscira and wearing the colors of the host country was a sign of goodwill and respect.

(As an aside, while their may be some truth to the cracks about the WW costume being an "American trademark", there is also truth in the observation that downplaying that aspect of the character is a marketing decision, designed to improve branding and revenue outside the U.S.)

[Midnite]

Please note, the official photo has a brown filter tint applied.

Here's a fan edit, I expect the costume to look much muted from this version.

Spoiler

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I was coming here to post this very thing.  Anyhow, I rather like the costume.  I don't mind making it look less like an American flag.  She isn't a patriotic hero, so it makes less sense for her anyway.  It keeps a lot of the basic elements and I like what they did with the skirt thing.  It loses the swimsuit look while keeping the same basic appearance.  It looks very very armor like and folks are already comparing the costume to Xena, which isn't a bad thing in this case.  I still don't think she has the right build for it, but at least the costume is cool.

[Midnite]

[spydermann93]

Interesting...

It seems like Batman will have to be plugged in the entire movie!

[abenavides]

To a lamppost if memory serves ...

[JeyNyce]

I wonder if that's the ending of the movie?  You know how in the old Batman films they would show the bat signal....would be interesting

[spydermann93]

To a lamppost if memory serves ...

Talk about BATtery Powered!

...

Ok, I'll leave now.

[John Jr.]

Nice WW costume, like most of you guys I would like it better with a little more color, but since even Superman's costume have darker hues than the comic book version I don't think it will happens.

[Midnite]

Watch it quick, don't know how long its going to last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOd8byxdjwQ

[BentonGrey]

The setting is fine, Cat, but a hipster portrayal (if that is actually something they're doing) just seems like a terrible idea.

Well, I have news for everyone!  Wonder Woman images have been released at Comic Con:
http://majorspoilers.com/2014/07/26/sdcc14-get-look-high-res-image-gal-gadot-wonder-woman/

I have to say, I am impressed.  She looks pretty fierce.  I can't really tell what the colors of her costume are, so assuming that they aren't really black and brown, that just being the filter of the image, that's a pretty good version of the WW costume.  Gal Gadot has bulked up a bit, and she doesn't look out of place.  Cool stuff.  I'm impressed with how source faithful she looks.

[Tomato]

... Benton, I'm sorry, but I have to do it...

The setting is fine, Cat, but a hipster portrayal (if that is actually something they're doing) just seems like a terrible idea.



Wonder Woman images have been released at Comic Con:
http://majorspoilers.com/2014/07/26/sdcc14-get-look-high-res-image-gal-gadot-wonder-woman/

I have to say, I am impressed.  She looks pretty fierce.  I can't really tell what the colors of her costume are, so assuming that they aren't really black and brown, that just being the filter of the image, that's a pretty good version of the WW costume.  Gal Gadot has bulked up a bit, and she doesn't look out of place.  Cool stuff.  I'm impressed with how source faithful she looks.

[Starman]

So, does that picture alleviate any concerns about Gadot in the role or is everyone still hating her? 

[Silver Shocker]

Tomato, that is awesome. Pretend I posted the picture with dog as I'm up late right now and don't feel up to it. Also I'm about to slightly disagree with you so hopefully that will put you in a good mood.

Ok, let me give you all my take lest I sound too much like Superboy Prime:

1. I have no problem with the Gene Hackman style Luthor. Hackman is good. I really like the first two Superman movies. But Superman the Movie was made in the 1970s, the modern version of Batman and Luthor didn't even exist back then. Nolan has brought us a bunch of stuff we've had to wait years to see on the big screen and I think it's great that my dad and my friends who don't read comics and whoever else know who Ra's and Talia and whoever else are. I'd like to see the Superman movies given a similar treatment, but they seem to only be interested in doing Zod and Luthor each time. I really want to see a big budget Brainiac in one of these things.

2. I don't have a problem with Eisenberg as an actor. I don't know the guy. I never saw The Social Network, nor I am I in any hurry to do so. But I was hoping that like Ledger he would transform into the role rather than the people involved taking the kind of thing he was doing before and adding that in. It's kinda like how in Schumaker's Batman, EVERY villain was the Joker. Hamming it up, telling silly jokes, laughing like crazy people. Considering one of those guys was Mr. Freeze, and they seemed to referencing the TAS version....

3. I get what you guys are saying about the whole "control information" bit, but A. This seems like the wrong movie for that. and B. I've been wondering why this version of Luthor would WANT to get into villainy if he's the Facebook guy? He's already rich, he's probably not a weapons dealer or anything like that, if he's anything like a lot of those internet clowns the worst thing he's done is drop dox, post sensitive information and harvest people's personal info for marketing purposes. I don't see why that's a threat to Superman when he's usually going after dudes like Zod. Now, When Skyfall, or the tv show Bones do Evil Wikileaks guy, it makes sense because noone's got superpowers (except Javier Bardem's "super-planned for everything" powers ) Superman could just fly into the guy's computer room and break his neck. Or melt his servers. Or use his powers to expose HIS shady business.

Might make a good reason for Lex to hate Big Blue. Might be an interesting story. Too bad this movie's got like 6 stories in it already.

Yeah, in case you guys can't tell, I don't have a faith in this thing. Wonder Woman looks really good. Better than I expected. Could use some color. Those shots of Batman just make me want to watch Dark Knight Returns again. 

So, does that picture alleviate any concerns about Gadot in the role or is everyone still hating her?

Costume looks good. I hope Gadot's good in the movie, and WW is good in it. Heck, I hope everything's good. We'll have to wait and see. I wasn't worried about her build or looks. It's all up to the acting, script ect.

Here's three questions:

1. Can she act?

2. How much cheesecake is going to be in movie?

3. Does she make out with Batman and or Superman?

4. Do Superman and Batman make out? 

[JeyNyce]

The reason that Lex hate Supes so much is because Lex likes the attention he's getting from the public and then here comes an alien and takes the attention away from him.  It was setup that way in Superman TAS.  If they can fins a way to put that in this movie, then they may have a good story or sub-plot.

[abenavides]

You beat me to the post, Jeynyce.

That's exactly Luthor's motivation - jealousy of Supes taking his spotlight and the adulation he feels should be his.

This was actually established way back in Byrne's 1986 reboot of Superman, when Lex became the powerful business man (a Marvin Wolfman idea).

[Silver Shocker]

You're right, that is true.

Talking about the TAS version, I actually watched that AFTER Justice League. And after seeing how cool Lex Luthor was in that thing (and the number of plots from Superman that Justice League brought up) I was really looking forward to that. But while Darkseid was pretty good in it, as was Brainiac, Luthor was a little disappointed with. Don't get me wrong, Clancy Brown has always been an excellent Luthor, and the writing for him was perfectly fine, I just found myself disappointed by how few really big storylines he had compared to the business with Darkseid and the Brainiac episodes, which I really liked.

[Shogunn2517]

Not that I haven't been keeping track of this discussion with Lex Luthor, but as a response, I do like Smallville's take on Lex.  He thinks himself great and heroic for not having any sort of powers and STILL standing up to a being who could level the earth if he had the notion.