Batman v Superman

Started by thalaw2, July 21, 2013, 12:29:43 AM

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Tomato

... When I can say with complete seriousness that the costume from smallville was better looking, you need to fire your costume designer.

hoss20

Thanks for clarifying that info, guys. I think the design looks pretty cool, as well. It's the poorly-accented-colors-on-a-black-and-white-photo look that came across as amateurish to me. The flesh tone they decided to accent his skin with is uneven and inconsistent. Just look at his top right forehead as an example. I'm also concerned, like you all, that they may be trying too hard to make him a bad***. They could have used a full color photo and he still would have looked pretty nasty.

Jimaras8

Tomato i think this is a stretch. I personally wouldn't want to see the green gloves and the leotard. Guys, we have to face that some things can't be translated to live action. When Momoa was casted i was picturing an Aqumana like this, Peter david ear. I just hope they don't neglect that Aqumana is a character of two worlds and a very interesting one. if we see just "Khal drogo" with trident that cuts things and stis in a cool manner in his throne THEN i will be disappointed.

BentonGrey

#303
Leotard?  What are you talking about, Jim?  Aquaman wears armor, and that's one of the things that can be pretty easily translated to live action. :P  They could definitely have done golden scale mail and some form of his classic costume. 
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catwhowalksbyhimself

They could have easily done an armored/military uniform look perhaps make the orange more of a golden color which would have very much the look of his classic costume and still look quite nice for a movie.  This one look like someone hit him with a bag of flour or something.  Too much white.
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Tomato

#305
If the Marvel movies have taught me anything, it's that there are ways to make even the most ridiculous seeming outfits from the comics, and making them look decent. Aquaman's gone through several periods wearing different outfits, but they always eventually bring him back to the orange and green outfit. And I'm not saying it HAS to be the same shades of orange and green either... you could do something more bronze-ish like they already did with Wonder Woman's costume, or do something in more of a gold color like with the alex ross interpretation.

That said... it's growing on me... sort of, but I stand by my statement about Smallville being a better adaption for now(at least that design doesn't feature the stupid dark hair with bleached highlights... either make him blonde or don't, giving him random bleach blonde highlights just makes him look silly). I suspect I'll like it more when I see a shot of it where the person photoshopping it isn't leaching all color from the upper torso.

The sad thing is, I think the best part of the outfit might be cut off. You can barely see them in the picture, but there's definitely a muted green to the pants. But again, it's hard to tell how appealing it is with how they leached all color from the bloody thing.

BentonGrey

#306
Absolutely Cat.  A professional version of something like this would DEFINITELY work!
http://project-nerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Aquaman-Cosplay-SDCC-2013-3.jpg

Or this:
http://petelabrozzi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/20121013_NYCC2012_Cosplayers_236-Edit.jpg?1e5719

Tell me that doesn't look good in real life!  Of course, it would still need some tweaking (pants and gloves), but I think the basic concept looks pretty darn awesome since it's basically just armor.

'Mato, that was the substance of my argument a while back.  His definitive costume, through most of his 70 years of history, is the orange and green.
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Jimaras8

I am talking about his lower body trousers. It does seem like leotard or spandex. Benton sorry but those two pictures would look horrible in the big screen. They look cheesy as hell. I get what you mean that they could alter the colors a little and i would love to see the scales in a manner similar to Thor armor but the grren trousers needed to go. At least in the manner that they are in the comics. The latex green gloves two. I kinda like the scaled bracers he has now.

BentonGrey

#308
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 21, 2015, 06:17:59 PM
Of course, it would still need some tweaking (pants and gloves), but I think the basic concept looks pretty darn awesome since it's basically just armor.

*Ahem*  Anyway, yeah, I agree, the tights and gloves would need to be somewhat different, and I don't see why pants like (we assume) this movie costume has wouldn't work just fine for the traditional orange and green look, if only WB wasn't terrified of color.  Also, you have to assume that a major movie studio, with all of its resources, could easily create something that keeps the same idea but looks much more professional than what a random fan whipped up in his garage.  Yes, parts of this costume looks amateurish here, but that's probably because it was made by an amateur.  ;)

But are we really so impoverished in imagination that we can't see how some pretty minor changes could adapt this look to the big screen?

How about gloves more like these?:
http://namtab.com/aquablog/staffordMEGACON1.gif

How about pants more like these?:
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/110502/2438411-830523_510436989008921_607785655_o.jpg

It isn't hard to figure out how to tweak the classic design for a movie.  Heck, fans have already done most of the work.  Obviously you don't just take it directly off the comic page, but Marvel has proven, over and over again, that people will embrace these characters when they stay close to their roots, even when their costumes actually have color and look pretty much comic-accurate.  Heck, they put Captain America in what was effectively his classic comic costume, and that movie made more money than the GDP of several small countries!

Jim, I think a leotard is an entire body thing, though I could be wrong.
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catwhowalksbyhimself

I see no problem with keeping the green.  Green is a military color.  Make it a bit darker and more like part of a military uniform and bam.
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BentonGrey

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on February 21, 2015, 08:19:15 PM
I see no problem with keeping the green.  Green is a military color.  Make it a bit darker and more like part of a military uniform and bam.
:thinkingidea

Yeah, if Spider-Man's red and blue can work or Cap's red, white, and blue, there's no reason green, which is, as Cat says, a perfectly natural color for real-world uses, shouldn't work.
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Tomato

That's the thing though... His pants are already green in the current design. Hell, cut his hair and put a scale shirt on him, and the design is probably just fine.

HarryTrotter

They probably just wanted to go with Kal Drogo vibe.And speaking of costumes,isnt Wonder Womans very Xena?
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Jimaras8

Quote from: Spade on February 22, 2015, 05:51:07 AM
They probably just wanted to go with Kal Drogo vibe.And speaking of costumes,isnt Wonder Womans very Xena?

Well, at least it has classic elements of the costume. The three things i wanted to see in her was the eagle, the lasso and the double W. They put all three, so yeah i am satisfied about that.

Benton about the leotard you know better than i do. I just have seen in some sites that it is called leotard but they could be joking. Anyway overall i agree with most of your points in some degree. Completely personally i would want the green and orange only if they changed the material and the color a bit. I still believe that in their comics state it would look horrible.

Starman

QuoteAbsolutely Cat.  A professional version of something like this would DEFINITELY work!
http://project-nerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Aquaman-Cosplay-SDCC-2013-3.jpg

Or this:
http://petelabrozzi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/20121013_NYCC2012_Cosplayers_236-Edit.jpg?1e5719

Tell me that doesn't look good in real life!

:huh:

That does not look good in real life.

BentonGrey

#315
Starman's disapproval only encourages me that I'm on the right track.  ;)
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I've never had any particular love for the classic Aquaman look, but I've seen and can imagine ways to do something cool based on it.

As for this look...I really want a full properly coloured picture, but I think it's okay. I'm not big on the tattoos but the armor and what we can see of the belt and pants look good. I've never had a problem with the bearded look or hook. I kinda liked the water hand though.

I saw this pic featuring Aquaman's various costumes the other day. Thought it was neat seeing them all beside each other, reminded me of C6's skins:
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/279/e/6/evolution_of_aquaman_by_boybluesdcu-d5gzcz2.jpg
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BentonGrey

#317
You know, Aquaman's classic costume is really one of the most practical and real-world effective of all standard superhero costumes.  After all, he wears a real-world style of armor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_armour

It isn't like this is something from fantasy; it is an actual ancient technology.  If you assume its made out of some fancy Atlantean metal or something so it would be stronger than steel, it would make sense for it to be worn by a superhero.

Here's a reproduction of a scale-mail tunic:
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/320/e/b/scale_short_sleeves_by_drazhan-d32zzke.jpg

And a real historical version:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121201203408/darke/images/f/fc/Scalemail.jpg

And here's a more subtle one that shows what Aquaman's could look like:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2474/plumatalight.jpg

So an adaptation of his classic costume could easily be well grounded in reality.
http://i15.tinypic.com/4tyzhbo.jpg
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Tomato

So... I may not be sold on the design, but I found this article about the significance of some of the tattos rather interesting, and I'm not as dead-set against it as I was before. I'm still not that happy about it, but I'll conceed that it's an interesting take.

BentonGrey

While the idea of a hero who is an 'embodiment of Polynesian culture' is an interesting one, it seems an...odd choice for Aquaman, given his Grecian roots.  I can see the logic of it, and I appreciate Momoa's desire to honor his heritage.  Still, it seems as if they are co-opting the character for something other than what he is.
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JeyNyce

You know that none of this will matter if:
1- The movie ends up being a bomb
2- He can't act like Aquaman

This is why I haven't said anything about how he looks because to me it doesn't matter if his acting can't convince me that he's Aquaman.
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Starman

The Polynesian aspect really does make sense for a guy who rules the oceans and they still managed to link his image closely to the Peter David-era Aquaman look ... pretty clever stuff. Even the fan coloured version of the picture in the article Tomato posted looks good.

I'm really curious to see what Ezra Miller is going to look like as The Flash now.

QuoteThis is why I haven't said anything about how he looks because to me it doesn't matter if his acting can't convince me that he's Aquaman.

Jason Momoa has already played a few sensitive warrior-type characters ... I think that's why he was such a lock for this role, particularly if the film's Aquaman is going to be similar in tone to his appearance in the Justice League cartoon.

HarryTrotter

#322
Is it too early to say I already like Grant Gustin better than Ezra Miller?
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Tomato

I had some issues with the fan color (namely that they made the armor segments orange, when they're clearly gold) so I did my own.



For the most part, I just tried to bring out the color already present in the image. It's a tad on the sloppy side, but... eh, I'm not trying to win any awards with it. I just wanted to see what it'd look like without the stupid photoshop job they did to it.

hoss20

#324
Thank you, Tomato. This is how you properly recolor an image. They didn't even put the flesh color on the entirety of his head in the original. There is a large spot on his right forehead at the hairline that is still gray and the area between his bottom lip and his beard isn't done well, either (on the original). The overall quality was why I questioned if it was official or not. Yours, on the other hand, is very well done and the colors certainly "pop" better; giving it more of an impact.

Starman

QuoteIs it too early to say I already like Grant Gustin better than Ezra Miller?

Yes. Ezra Miller is, IMO, the most talented actor they've announced so far to play a superhero in the cinematic Justice League. I'm just interested in seeing what they do with the costume and his overall appearance.

HarryTrotter

Cant be worst than the cast of Suicide Squad,right? XD
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bat1987

I like the costume, pretty much what I expected when they announced Momoa in the role. Really want to see it in full color though.

Shogunn2517

Quote from: Starman on February 21, 2015, 01:18:15 AM
I'm surprised there aren't more complaints here considering the previous passionate dislike for Jason Momoa's casting  :rolleyes:

IMO, Momoa looks cool ... as expected, they went with the Peter David-era warrior king Aquaman and Snyder's team didn't drop the ball. You can always rely on Snyder for visuals.

It's still kind of amusing that Aquaman is going to be the "tough guy" of the Justice League, though ;)

Well, I could complain, but you would probably insult me more.

That said, I still agree with Benton.  What's been said, has been said.  It look like they just put Khal Drogo in a Superman movie.  If the dude ain't treading water, it'd be hard for anyone to readily recognize him to be Aquaman.

Like everything I'm seeing here is like the Superman Reborn footage and rumors we've seen.

But, whatever.  It'll happen.  What will be, will be.