The Flash (possible Spoilers)

[HarryTrotter]

^Yep,Stephen Amell and Robbie Amell.
Maybe there will be some version of Legion of Doom in the future?

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

From some things said at a con panel, it looks like a version of Wally West/Kid Flash will almost certainly be joining the show for Season 2.  I was expecting this, but it's still nice to get confirmed.  Definitely looking forward to the new episodes.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Lots of big reveals, a shocking death, and an in-universe retcon in the brand new episode.

Spoiler

Wells is confirmed to be the assumed identity of Eobard Thawne, who has been trapped back in the present.  Eddie is his ancestor.  He's been after the flash in order to use his speed to go back to his own time.  He apparently went back in time in the first place to kill Barry as a child, but that apparently did not go well.

In the meantime, Eobard kill Cisco, Barry is forced to share his secret with Iris, then he accidentally travels back in time to the beginning of the episode and undos it all.

Time travel wierdness to follow text episode.

Pretty great episode all in all.  Good to finally get some solid answers about Wells.

[Podmark]

Good episode, and

Spoiler

the scene with Wells at the end and Barry travelling back through time were awesome. I look forward to the next one.

Tom Cavanagh has really impressed me in this show. I only knew him from his guest spots in Scrubs and I really didn't think he'd work well in a super hero show. Instead he's one of my favourite things in the show. That scene with Cisco was gripping.

[JeyNyce]

Wow, great episode.  I'm too hyped right now to say anything else about it....Wooooooo!

[HarryTrotter]

Nobody comments about Startacus being WW?

[thalaw2]

My jaw is still dropped.  Awesome stuff!

Spoiler

Cisco was killed, but I doubt he's dead...besides he still has to become a meta-human himself.  I was suspecting that Barry's father would say that he did kill his wife, because he's never straight up denied it in any episode of the flash.  I was so hoping there would be no reveal between Barry and Iriis.  It would have been much more realistic for me.  But...I'm watching a TV program abot a guy who can run backwards in time....

[Starman]

Tom Cavanaugh's acting was great in this episode. What a subtle actor.

The special effects for Weather Wizard were also pretty amazing for a TV show.

[Silver Shocker]

The ending to that episode really was intense. The scene with Wells really had me pumped up, as did the stuff with Barry at the end. Really looking forward to the next one.

Never seen Spartacus, so I didn't realize at first the guy from Weather Wizard was him. I'd heard a lot of the actors for villains in Arrow and Flash are from that show though, so it doesn't surprise me.

[Starman]

Deathstroke, Amanda Waller, Captain Boomerang, Nyssa and Weather Wizard are all Spartacus alumni.

BTW, you should really watch Spartacus ... it's a great TV show.

[HarryTrotter]

Im expecting Dustin Clare(Gannicus) to appear very soon 

[Silver Shocker]

Case in point: I have absolutely no idea who that is. 

[HarryTrotter]

Spartacus cast,again...

[thalaw2]

Spartacus was good but after a season I couldn't stand that way of talking.  I thought it was cool at first, but it started getting crappy.

[spydermann93]

Next week's episode can't come fast enough!!!

Spoiler

I was really sad to see Cisco die! His face was just heartbreaking.  Cisco being killed by a man that he respected and cared for so much was such a heart-jerking moment, ESPECIALLY with Wells' dialog as he was about to kill Cisco.

Given what the Flash did at the end, though, it's pretty clear that Cisco has another shot at living (if Barry can figure out Wells' motives before Cisco gets killed again!). Do you guys think that he'll tell Wells that he could time travel, thus preventing Cisco's death?

I was really excited to see the Flash accomplish another really awesome feat, and I was really happy about the homage to the Weather Wizard's "Weather Wand".

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I just saw the TV ad for the next episode feature Mark Hamill as the Trickster.  Much to my surprise the old TV show's costume and screenshots are used in some photos of the Trickster in his younger days.  Quite cool!

[bat1987]

This week's episode was good. Not as good as last week's but good.

Spoiler

Really like Snart's "I'm the smartest guy in the room" attitude. The glitter gun was silly (I'm assuming it's some sort of glitter she's firing, not an actual gold, since they'd be morons if they are still robbers after acquiring that). Wells' and Cisco's scene was really good when you consider how it played out last week. Can't wait to see what's Barry gonna find out about Wells.

[Starman]

I really prefer the seriousness of Reverse Flash as opposed to how camp Captain Cold is being played. Don't even get me started on how OTT Heatwave is.

If they make Mirror Master (who sshould be played John Hannah to continue the Spartacus theme) a silly guy with a Scottish accent, I'll be disappointed.

[BWPS]

Captain Cold needs to team up with Cupid from Arrow and be the villains on another show that I can never watch. Oh, or they could team up with that Murmur guy and also cut their tongues out. Or they can just not have them be on the shows anymore.

They're so frelling lame and either bad at acting or they just don't take the show seriously enough to do their jobs correctly. It is very jarring and I dislike them immensely.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

On the contrary, I love their version of Captain Cold and consider him my favorite villain on the show, so to each their own.

[Tomato]

Captain Cold is... back and forth with me. There's something solid there, and the actor does a good job... but I feel like they're trying waaaay too hard with him right now. I feel like I'll appreciate him more once the character is better established and they can just let Miller do his thing.

That said, the scenes between Cold and his sister in the latest episode were really fun, probably my favorites since they introduced the character. I feel like we got to see some of the humanity to the character, rather than the robotic "I am cold. I am awesome. Watch me be awesome." thing they've been hammering into the ground.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I do think we could use a break from him for the rest of the season.  Really looking forward to the Trickster next week.

[HarryTrotter]

Cold is the best villain in this show IMO.
You think Eddie will get powers here?

[Midnite]

Spoiler

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

It should be noted that the above picture contains possible spoilers for Arrow as well.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Mark Hamill was terrific as Trickster Sr.  Really great, classic episode and I loved the old series costume making its appearance.  We also get Wells' backstory.

Spoiler

Wells is not actually Eobard Thawne.  Thawne killed the real Wells and his wife and stole his appearance and identity.  He did so to make the Flash appear early than he normally would have so he could tap into the Speed Force and get back home.

Barry is now fully aware that the man he knows as Wells is the Reverse Flash and Eddie now knows the full story too.

[thalaw2]

Mark is voice acting genius!  Has it really be 20 years since the original Flash series?

Spoiler

"I am your father" That was classic!  I loved it! I'm glad Harrison Wells didn't kill Barry's moms.  But still no one is actually up and denying the killing or admitting to it. 

So what kind of pseudo-science can be applied here?  Can the body absorb tachyons to substitute for Speed Force?   

[HarryTrotter]

Axel,I am your father! 
Brilliant

[thalaw2]

Axel,I am your father! 
Brilliant

Yes it was.  That was so brilliant it was worth building an entire episode around just that line.

[Silver Shocker]

I've heard someone compare Wenthworth Miller as Captain Cold to Albert Wesker from the later Resident Evil games, which I can kinda see. I don't love him, but I don't really dislike him though. I don't get the impression he's a very good actor on this show though.
Hamill was incredibly entertaining. Not quite as good as some of his best Joker VO material, but definitely a treat to see him do that kind of performance in live action (I've never seen the 90's Flash show, so my only other time seeing that, sadly, was in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back).

Spoiler

I really wish we saw more of an aftermath of what happened to him and Axel after Flash foiled their plans.  It really reminded me of the time in Arrow when Ollie won a fight with China White, fled the cops with her right there and we just didn't see her again until a later storyarc. Superhero comics and many of their adaptations are usually really good about having the obligatory scene of the villain being taken away or in jail.

I'm of two minds of the Thawn/Well reveal in this episode. On the one hand, it strengthens the connection with Eddie and gives some context to Well's backstory. On the other hand, it means that Tom Cavanagh is effectively playing a mask, which cheapens the performance a bit for me, and I think the actor for Eobard Thawn will come up short if we see him more. Secondly, he's a time traveller named after H.G. Wells. That sounds 1) like an alias he would make up, and 2) like the kind of name a Silver Age Flash villain would have for their real name anyways.

[edit] Oh, I just remembered something I wanted to bring up from an earlier episode. "But does your heart ache for me?" Ugh. Pre-quel era George Lucas is looking at that line and going "Yeah, that's a little sappy."