You guys are awesome

[Tomato]

So I've been a part of my friend's KHUx(the Kingdom Hearts Mobile game) league, which is mostly made up of the GameFAQs community, which he's a part of. I poked my head over on the GameFAQs boards because they were talking about bringing a game/guild issue over there for the people who aren't active in the chat, and I read through some of the posts...

*shudder*

So, yeah, I wanted you guys to know that you're all awesome, just based on the fact that every other thread on here isn't "OMG, Superheroes stink" or "Freedom Force: WORST GAME EVAR." It amazes me that in a world of internet Anons and spite, we still manage to maintain our happy little corner of reasonable discourse and proper discussion.

[HarryTrotter]

Well,it is Gamefaqs,you should have see that coming...

[Outcast]

Well i think i have had a somewhat similar experience when i joined another forum based on a video game that i liked. I was really shocked to see how members were flaming each other left and right there. They post insulting gifs and remarks at each other. While also putting down the latest installment of the game the forum was all about. They think they are experts when it comes to judging/reviewing video games and belittle the opinions of others who think otherwise. It all came across to me like they were trolling the forums there.

But in the end, i realized that i needed to respect that other people are entitled to their own feelings and opinions of the game. So i tried to understand why they do what they do and did my best to let them realize they should at least respect the other people whose opinions are different from theirs. 

I think it's just in this forum that people who might not like the game( or   ) aren't as vocal about it or at least not as brutal with their complaints.

[HarryTrotter]

Well,thats the internet for you...Im not really sure why would anyone sign up on a forum about X,if he hates X.

[daglob]

Hey, I know this bunch is awesome. Just look back at the support I received in the Good,Bad,Ugly thread.

[spydermann93]

This is quite possibly the only group of fans that I've been a part of that DOESN'T hate the game that they play a lot of, lol

You guys are all amazing!!

[OrWolvie1]

Well, time for lil ol' me to put my two cents worth in here. Having been a silent member of this community for years now, only having become more active in recent months, This place, and the group of people who frequent here are, by far, the best that the internet has to offer! You all have provided not only your talents and expertise to those of us who have asked for it and needed it, but I have yet to see anyone, at any time, on any of the posts here ever belittle anyone. It's like everyone who frequents this board realizes that everyone was new once, and not everyone is capable of doing everything. Some are fantastic modders, some are fantastic skinners, or phenominal with scripting or FX or whatever. Everyone seems to have something to contribute. And everyone offers friendly advice and commentary when it's asked for or needed. My hats off to each and every one of you for being who you are and for helping those of us who need it. In closing, all I can say to all of you is THANK YOU!!!

[BentonGrey]

I agree wholeheartedly.  There's really no other community online that I have any real interest in being part of.  FR is the only place that I feel is really worth my time because the people here are so fantastic.  I always tell my wife, the people here are just a classy bunch.

[Lionheart]

That's because we are all well above normal on FR. That's what the "ab" stands for before normal, isn't it?

[BentonGrey]

 

[Panther_Gunn]

While I would agree that we *are* all awesome, I think a good portion of the credit would go to Zap, Randy, and maybe even Hellscorp (I don't know how much of an active hand he had before I got behind the scenes).  They were the hammers of Justice around here when it was a little more fast & loose, and set the tone for what would be accepted and allowed around here, and what was too far.  And whereas most forums are probably run like a dictatorship, I kind of view the Admins as the Executive Branch, the Mods are kind of like the Joint Chiefs, and the Titans are kind of like the Legislative Branch, and all of us together ("By Your Powers Combined.....") act like the Judicial Branch when need be.  Many heads makes for a much more level-headed way of handling things, as well as more than enough sets of eyes to see when things get out of hand.

And that concludes today's lesson in US Gov't in a microcosm.   

[Cyber Burn]

Considering how long you all have put up with me, there's more than enough proof to show how great the FR Community is. Plus, not only have you been here when I needed it during times of loss, but you all have been very understanding in regards to the other issues that I have as well, and for that, I will always be grateful.

[Epimethee]

Cheers to this amazing community!

[hoss20]

I feel very fortunate for the last dozen years that I have had a place to go to catch up with people, see what was being created, learn new techniques, help people out, and just escape from everyday life to be among friends. I am grateful to everyone here, those before me, and those, for one reason or another, that are no longer with us. When I start on my computer for the day, after checking my email, this is always the first place I visit. Thank you all for making this the best community online or anywhere else, for that matter.

[Deaths Jester]

As one of the really old hands here I just gotta say, "Get off my damn lawn you dagnabbit whippersnappers!"

[OrWolvie1]

As one of the really old hands here I just gotta say, "Get off my damn lawn you dagnabbit whippersnappers!"

LOL. Sorry, DJ, but you don't have a lawn anymore. I turned it into a parking lot while you were sleeping 

[Reepicheep]

*raises hand*

Freedom Force does kinda suck, though...

[BentonGrey]

BURN him! 

[OrWolvie1]

BURN him! 

Grabs his pitchfork and riles up the local villagers

[BigAl1775]

A tree is only as strong as its roots, correct?

[Tomato]

No, let's be realistic guys, Freedom Force is not good. It's a point and click game whose sequel, while slightly better graphically (though you'd never know it with the dds compression they used, ick) was worse in terms of gameplay and story. And frankly, while the overall storyline for both games is ok, it's mostly derivative of other superhero media from the gold and silver age and only really works for people with a rough knowledge of both.

The only thing Freedom Force really has going for it is that it's basically built to be a blank slate for additional content. You can build your own characters in game by creating your own voice packs, creating models and skins to fit your vision, and adding animations that give yours characters their own style of movement. And if that's not enough, you can mod the game using in-game tools to create your own stories and mold the game to your vision. But even with all of that, the reason FF has endured as long as it has is only because of the community of artists, creators, and general contributors that have come to shape it in the years since its release.

[HarryTrotter]

Its cliche,but that was the point.

[kkhohoho]

No, let's be realistic guys, Freedom Force is not good. It's a point and click game whose sequel, while slightly better graphically (though you'd never know it with the dds compression they used, ick) was worse in terms of gameplay and story. And frankly, while the overall storyline for both games is ok, it's mostly derivative of other superhero media from the gold and silver age and only really works for people with a rough knowledge of both.

...

I liked them...

[bearded]

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The only thing Freedom Force really has going for it is that it's basically built to be a blank slate for additional content. You can build your own characters in game by creating your own voice packs, creating models and skins to fit your vision, and adding animations that give yours characters their own style of movement. And if that's not enough, you can mod the game using in-game tools to create your own stories and mold the game to your vision. But even with all of that, the reason FF has endured as long as it has is only because of the community of artists, creators, and general contributors that have come to shape it in the years since its release.

This is why it is the best game ever. I have't found anything to compare to it, with an engine preset for super heroics. There are some games even more moddable, but not with the presets.

[spydermann93]

I will agree with Tomato that some of the mechanics are lack-luster (especially in ), but my lord does the customization GREATLY enhance this game's longevity!

I can't say that I never get bored with this game, but I do see myself coming back to it time and time again.  Not many games do that for me, and this game has given me a great love for comic books and the gagillions of amazing (and even some not-so-amazing) that come with them.

Are there things that I wish were different in FF? Definitely.  I don't like how: Active Defenses are "it's either blocked or not"; attributes are limited to 5, max; stats can only be on a scale from 1-10; non-melee attacks cannot reach the level of damage that melee attacks can; the new energy system in (the one in was sooo much better); and quite a few other things.

All of these, however, are overshadowed by the sheer customization that one can make. Be it Irrational's very own characters, Marvel, DC, Image, or even one's own original batch, these games give the player too much freedom to not love this game.  This is only compounded by the fact that there are still such wonderful content creators such as all of you pumping out amazing new meshes, skopes, and skins, even to this day!

[BentonGrey]

Don't be silly, 'Mato.  They're amazing games, even with the flaws in FF2.  The customization makes them legendary, but they are good on their own merits too!

Spyder is right.

[Tomato]

I'm sorry, but when I compare the gameplay and story to games like Undertale, Lego Batman 3, or the Arkham series, Freedom Force isn't even in the same league. It's not a bad time, certainly, but you cannot honestly tell me anyone here would still be devoting time to it if it were not for the customization options the game has, and the additional content other fans have provided.

Now, don't misunderstand me: My point isn't that it's a bad game and we're all stupid for playing it... we're STILL HERE for goodness sake. I still skim the FF boards at least once a week looking at all the new content people have made for the game. My point is that because it is so open ended, it has allowed this incredibly creative and vibrant community to come from a truly mediocre game.

[daglob]

You are comparing it to present day games. How did it match up at he time?

And, besides, the heading didn't say the game was awesome, but the community.

[kkhohoho]

I'm sorry, but when I compare the gameplay and story to games like Undertale, Lego Batman 3, or the Arkham series, Freedom Force isn't even in the same league.

So? For one thing, not all games need a good story to be good. Just look at the Mario games, or Legend of Zelda, or even the best fighting games. Would anyone honestly say that Street Fighter's story is Shakespeare or the stuff of legends? Probably not. But people still play it to this day, because the gameplay's just that good, (or at least most people think so; give me King of Fighters anyday, (and kudos to anyone who knows what KOF is,)) and they don't really give a darn about the plot.

But in addition to that, I honestly though that just as a game, Freedom Force was pretty darn good. To me at least, the gameplay was a blast. Heck, I'd say that just in terms of gameplay and the battlesystem, it's far better than games like Undertale. Don't get me wrong; Undertale is an amazing game, but the actual gameplay wasn't always the best part of it. But as to why FF was actually good, it's because it just had a fun realtime RTS system with a neat physics engine, and that it made you feel like a Superhero was only part of it. I respect your opinions 'mato, seriously, but how could FF possibly be just mediocre? Because I honestly just don't see it.

And yeah Daglob, the community's great, seriously, but since FF's been brought up, we might as well keep talking about it for at least a bit longer.

[HarryTrotter]

But you have to admit,there isnt many other games with this much staying power.Like Red Alert 2,HoMM3 and a couple of others...