So this is....different. (JL #SynderCut )

[Nyte Dragon]

 As a tie-in to the release of the 'JL - Synder's Cut', DC/HBOMax is offering THIS.

Okay, food and movie tie-ins are nothing new. (I remember the monster burger McDonald had for the Hercules animated film) But this is freaky. Not only is it130+ dollars, you prepare the the dishes at home. Apparently you get a few collector items, like a chaffing dish, a burger box, some drink light(?), and the crate it come too.

I will admit, when I saw the 'Element X' drink, the first thing I thought was 'Energy X'. Man, Irrational could have totally had a gold mine if they had made their own energy drink. They was ahead of their time, I'm afraid.

I'm iffy about the Synder Cut. I'm just not fond of the man's direction for heroes. It seems like he wants to make 'Destruction Porn', basically. (I had a mini-rant in my post in the Polls forum. ) And as much as I like Superman, okay LOVE Superman, I have never purchased the JL movie. I only bought BvS after a friend showed me the 'Ultimate' version... and it was... MEH. (Plus I caught it on sale for like $10, I'll pay 10 for Meh.) But that still isn't Lex Luthor, dangit! It could have been a whole new villain! Hell, they could have made it be Glorious Godfrey, and it would have worked so much better! And it would have tied into the Motherbox thread in JL! (Sorry, I'm ranting again.)

Anywhosit, is anyone planning to order this 'feast'?

[Silver Shocker]

Well, that is something different. 

But that still isn't Lex Luthor, dangit! It could have been a whole new villain! Hell, they could have made it be Glorious Godfrey, and it would have worked so much better! And it would have tied into the Motherbox thread in JL! (Sorry, I'm ranting again.)

That's a good point, never thought of that. Of course, they probably just wanted to exploit the hype out of one of the most famous Superman villains (it'd be nice if one of the movies actually utilized the qualities that make him an all-time great villain though, but oh well)

I have never purchased the JL movie. I only bought BvS after a friend showed me the 'Ultimate' version... and it was... MEH. (Plus I caught it on sale for like $10, I'll pay 10 for Meh.)

Yeah, the only DCEU movie I wanted to buy on disc was Shazam.
Now, if The Suicide Squad pulls it off...

(I remember the monster burger McDonald had for the Hercules animated film)

I thought it could have been a cool promotion if McDonalds referenced Rick & Morty by bringing back the Szechuan McNugget dipping sauce in time for the Mulan remake, but after the R&M fanbase made utter fools of themselves over that meme, I can't blame them for not doing it again by the time the film came out.

Man, Irrational could have totally had a gold mine if they had made their own energy drink. They was ahead of their time, I'm afraid.

Now you got me wondering what a Freedom Force movie or tv adaptation would be like. Even if it was animated.

Anywhosit, is anyone planning to order this 'feast'?

I know I won't be. It's certainly unique and interesting, and it's kinda cool that a "Big Belly Burger" exists as a real product, as well as Chocos (Jalapeno and cheese cookies? You have my curiosity), but yeah, it's far too pricey for what is basically just a novelty, even if you get to keep some little collectibles. I'd rather spend that on a game or some comics or an action figure or something.

Props to them for coming up with an unique and interesting way to promote their product though.

Energy drink would have fit Jared Leto's Joker better though. 

[HarryTrotter]

To be fair to McDonald's...there was that [unspecified virus of unknown origin] going on and Mulan came out on a streaming service. To mixed reviews and several controversies...
Anyway,in-universe brands would be an okay promotion if you could just buy a can of Buzz Cola or something. Whole package is kind of an overkill.

[Tomato]

So if anyone follows Comic Drake's channel, I may have sent him some money so he could buy the thing, rather than have to buy it myself.

[Silver Shocker]

I may have sent him some money so he could buy the thing, rather than have to buy it myself.

"May have" meaning you're not sure if you did or not, or you're just being jokey? Also, were you hoping he'd tell you if it's any good?
Also I think that might count as you putting money towards the Snyder Cut?

[Tomato]

 Oh, I absolutely did. He was gonna do it at 60,000 views to cover the cost, but the video slowed down around 25,000. Figured I'd just pay him directly to help cover it so he could do the video.

https://twitter.com/TrailerDrake/status/1357572196609228802?s=19

As for giving money towards the snyder cut... Ehhh? Like, in a roundabout way maybe, but probably still less than I've already paid by buying justice league figures for customs and such. Besides, I have less of a moral issue here, and more of a "I don't want to watch because the movie looks dumb". I'll absolutely give my money to a youtuber I enjoy so he can make an entertaining video eating this monstrosity.

[Nyte Dragon]

'May have' could also be...

I "may have" been drinking the neck and shoulders off a bottle of Everclear, and I "may have" went an online shopping bender. Now if you'll excuse me I have a few thousand Silly Bandz to deal with.

[Silver Shocker]

'May have' could also be...
went an online shopping bender.

And that's a good reason enough for me to not get drunk. I'd probably wake up up the next day and be like "Why did I just have $300 worth of Marvel Legends and Transformers figures mailed to me?"

[HarryTrotter]

'May have' could also be...
went an online shopping bender.

And that's a good reason enough for me to not get drunk. I'd probably wake up up the next day and be like "Why did I just have $300 worth of Marvel Legends and Transformers figures mailed to me?"

And thats why I own an Endless Waltz version TallGeease. 🥁 🥁

[SuperPoweredYank]

I will admit, when I saw the 'Element X' drink, the first thing I thought was 'Energy X'. Man, Irrational could have totally had a gold mine if they had made their own energy drink. They was ahead of their time, I'm afraid.

Look out, everyone. I think this might be part of Lord Dominion's new plan to send Energy X to the most annoying of humanity: Zack Snyder's fanbase.

Also, since Irrational (or "Ghost Story Games" as they're called now) seems to do little more than sell merchandise for their old games, I don't see why they couldn't make an Energy X energy drink.

[Nyte Dragon]

Also, since Irrational (or "Ghost Story Games" as they're called now) seems to do little more than sell merchandise for their old games,

Ohhhh ohhhhh, does that mean I can finally get my own plushie Brain-in-a-jar???






What? Don't judge me! 

[Silver Shocker]

'May have' could also be...
went an online shopping bender.

And that's a good reason enough for me to not get drunk. I'd probably wake up up the next day and be like "Why did I just have $300 worth of Marvel Legends and Transformers figures mailed to me?"

And thats why I own an Endless Waltz version TallGeease. 🥁 🥁

I think I own that one! It was either that or one that showed up near the end of the show.
I also had the update of HeavyArms. The Gundam Wing figures were actually really nice. Fully articulated, you can take the limbs off and put em back on and mix and match, good stuff. 

[HarryTrotter]

Well,there is a trailer now. I think they polished the cgi a bit,thats nice.

[Silver Shocker]

That is actually the 2nd trailer for the Snyder Cut, and I have actually a few things to say about it

-Jared Leto's Joker appearing in the movie for a mulligan, with Snyder outright admitting he was never originally going to be in the movie, and he just wanted to do him in a future film. And he has a new look, with long hair, no tattoos, and a somewhat different voice. And of particular note, the one scene we get in the trailer gives the impression Batman will team up with the Joker...which, I'll give them all the credit for this, we've never seen Batman team up with the Joker in a live action movie, so that's fresh, new territory for movie world.
-In addition to a radically different (and better) design and CGI for Steppenwolf, he also has a radically different voice. I'm still eagerly awaiting finding out what Darkseid's voice will sound like. I'm assuming it will, like Snyder Cut Steppenwolf, be heavily digital altered, because the audio clip we heard of the actor doing the voice a year or two ago sounded terrible IMO.
-A proper appearance for Darkseid, complete with Desaad (who now looks like a member of the Black Order - apparently looking like an Emperor Palpatine knockoff wasn't scary or alien enough I guess) and....a comic-accurate Granny Goodness?!!!

-Cyborg with a gosh-darn minigun on his shoulder ala War Machine?! I have nothing else to add, I just think that's cool.
-The trailer confirmed that Henry Allen is in the Snyder Cut, as is the "Wonder Woman saves London" sequence (the little girl from the trailer can also be seen briefly in the 2017 cut version of the scene). This makes me happy as that's probably the single best scene in the entire film, and I can only assume the WW action scenes in the JSA animated movie trailer are directly based on it. I had the 2017 cut on this weekend because they aired it on tv again - I don't hate it, it may or may not end up being superior to the Snyder Cut depending on how far they lean into the Netflix Transformers "so self-serious it's not very fun" angle.

All that said, I'm going to both laugh AND cry if this thing comes out and gets a direct sequel, and that sequel is basically a live action version of Apocalypse War, bringing in the Suicide Squad, Shazam and the Birds of Prey. Which I wouldn't put past them.

[HarryTrotter]

Also "We live in a society..."

[SuperPoweredYank]

Also "We live in a society..."

Still in disbelief that line was used in official DC material.

[Silver Shocker]

Well, on the nose as that might have been:

1) Ascended memes making it into nerd properties is a long-running tradition, be it Samuel L's famous line in Snakes on a Plane, Fast and the Furious referencing #JusticeForHan even though it makes no sense in context, Matt the Radar Technician being  made canon in a Star Wars comic, any number of things in anime and anime dubs, and indeed stuff in the superhero genre. And that includes memes that have baggage attached to them.

2) They also referenced this meme in the Todd Phillips/Joaquin Phoenix Joker. And it's especially common for official works to reference memes that were derived from or already featured in the official content in the first place.

3) I've heard people say "I cannot believe they 'unironically' used [that line]" And my thought is always "It's the Joker. Why do you think it was 'unironic'?"

4) If that's Ross from Friends as the Joker, that's one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen in my life.

[Nyte Dragon]

4) If that's Ross from Friends as the Joker, that's one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen in my life.

It is.

Harley : Puddin' why ain'tcha fought Bats in a while?

Joker : We were on a Break!

(And yes, I know Harley isn't with Joker, but I'm not using that crappy half-baked Punchline.)

[SuperPoweredYank]

3) I've heard people say "I cannot believe they 'unironically' used [that line]" And my thought is always "It's the Joker. Why do you think it was 'unironic'?"

It's Zack Snyder, so it's probably supposed to be taken dead seriously. Pretty sure the context is that it's during a nightmare, given Bats' outfit is the one he wore in the nightmare scene in Batman V Superman.

4) If that's Ross from Friends as the Joker, that's one of the most unsettling things I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah, it really do be like that sometimes.

[Silver Shocker]

But did Snyder cut the trailer? Because I know sometimes the people who cut the trailers are not the people making the flicks and don't even like how the trailers were cut (Star Trek Beyond, Terminator Genesis, Bridesmaids, Ghostbusters 2016) and sometimes trailers have lines that are not in the movie or not even intended to be in the movie (Deadpool's trailers, for example). Was it Whedon's or Snyder's idea for Cyborg to say "Booyah?"

[Tomato]

I feel like any snappy one liners like that were Whedon. Snyder's JL is brooding, grown up, edgy, and violent, with no room for any such frivolities.

It's frustrating because from what I've heard, Snyder is actually a decent human being... Respects his actors, doesn't bully people, etc. But the few bits I actually like in JL are almost certainly Whedon, and he is kind of a toolbag.

[BentonGrey]

I feel like you really need to have "grown-up" in scare quotes, 'Mato. 

[Tomato]

Fair, but I was more speaking to how Snyder sees the League, not the result (which is dour, edge lord garbage that thinks it's deeper than it is and has the general maturity of a 13 year old boy).

Personally, I have 0 problems with Snyder, and I don't mind supporting the film... I just also don't want to see it because it looks terrible.

[HarryTrotter]

I feel like any snappy one liners like that were Whedon.

That's something of a running gag in s2 of The Boys.

[Silver Shocker]

That's something of a running gag in s2 of The Boys.

Comparing the works of Garth Ennis vs Zach Snyder....now that's Sophie's Choice right there (yeah, I'm not a fan. I've heard people like the show; not my thing)

I kinda feel like anyone who makes fun of the Marvel movie's humor in their work would probably come off like they've got a grip of sour grapes. 

Anywho...

I feel like any snappy one liners like that were Whedon.

Actually, I have to make a correction. I posed the question of who's idea "Booyah" was, but I forgot that based on the leaks I've heard about, that scene almost certainly was Whedon. Oh well. The point that it's a forced reference to a drastically different iteration of the character (and arguably a better one, for that matter) still stands.

It's frustrating because from what I've heard, Snyder is actually a decent human being... Respects his actors, doesn't bully people, etc. But the few bits I actually like in JL are almost certainly Whedon, and he is kind of a toolbag.

I haven't heard as much about Snyder, but I will say, while I respect him as a filmmaker (respect doesn't necessarily mean I agree with his choices - I still really like the Watchmen movie, but it has is shortcomings - and there's pretty much all movie-exclusive changes) I find him absolutely obnoxious when he talks in an interview and states his case. "Livin' in a dream world" and all that.

What drew him to Watchmen (this was in the same interview as the infamous Batman quote) was that in most superhero stories, noone was screwing or killing each other. How very shallow, and NOT what Watchmen is about. Thank goodness for David Hayter's script and Zach/WB mostly sticking to the comic's plot and beat-to-beat moments.

Where was I going with this? Oh right.

Snyder's JL is brooding, grown up, edgy, and violent, with no room for any such frivolities.

I am curious about the final product, after all these years, for a few reasons. But in particular I want to see how Flash and Aquaman come off. The jury's out on whether Aquaman was supposed to be the frat-boy dudebro in Snyder's version, but we all know most of Barry's most memorable jokes were pure Whedon, and one of the ways I know this is Snyder outright admitted ("League of our own" was also Whedon, by the way, and you can tell - and ONLY that part of the scene)

Now, Barry. Here's the thing. On the one hand, having a comedic foil to balance out the other characters makes sense (I think I mentioned this when people called him a ripoff of Tom's Spidey) and it also helps distinguish him from Grant's version, but now that I know the Henry Allen scene is in there, well, that's not a comedic moment, but in the moment-to-moment, Barry still feels consistent as a character. Either that or Ezra Miller is just making it seem like he is.

Now, the Wonder Woman scene - I'm assuming that was at least partially a Snyder scene because new footage of the little girl is featured in the first Snyder Cut trailer. Beyond that.....eh. On the one hand, Roose Bolton from GoT and his gang of radical terrorists are portrayed as nihilistic monsters and the crowd is screaming in panic and terror (one could compare to the civilians from Raimi's Spider-Man, Whedon's own "Avengers" and even Nolan's The Dark Knight - there's a hero inside of all of us, after all  ) but on the other hand, WW is portrayed as heroic and optimistic in that scene "Who are you?" "A believer." On the other other hand (Oh no, three hands!) The actual WW movie came out, so they might have been going for consistency by that point, on the fourth hand, WW's most unflattering moment in the film is when she shoves Bruce for mentioning Steve Trevor, a moment I would assume was Snyder.

But it could have far worse. Snyder once promoted Wonder Woman with an image of WW carrying a collection of severed human heads.

Now, I know because of Lex's line that they didn't just splice in two sets of scenes, they spliced in moment-to-moment LINES into individual scenes, so, for example, the scene where Bruce could go to see Barry could be largely the same minus the bit about brunch, and the bush league continuity error about Vic becoming Cyborg AFTER Supes died appears to have been, you guessed it, ADR dubbed into a wide shot in the Batcave.

And let's not not get even started on them retconning Superman to have actually acted like Superman before he died.

Also, Batman jobs like a champ whenever superpowered beings show up in this universe. I don't need him to be the Bat-God, but he's pretty useless unless he's got the Batmobile. And you can already tell from the Snyder cut trailers that if nothing else, he's going to have a slightly better go at it.

Now as for "with no room for any such frivolities.". That's not entirely true. It's close, but not quite. Perry White and Alfred both get a few good jabs. Mind you, they're incredibly cynical jabs ("Crime wave in Gotham. In other news, water....wet" "Noone cares about Clark Kent taking on The Batman" "I hope the next generation of Waynes doesn't inherit an empty wine cellar. Not that there's likely to be any") but they're in there.

In the case of the Booyah, it only half works (I personally was hoping for an "Outrageous" from Aquaman, which WOULD have worked) in the exact same vein as Paramount Shredder saying "Tonight I dine on turtle soup" because it's not particularly in character for this version of Vic to even say that. If nothing else, the Snyder Cut is guaranteed to make Vic an actual character, because almost his entire plot was scrubbed out of the Whedon Cut. Mind you, if you want to see that plot done well, it's called Doom Patrol S1.....and the original comics......and Young Justice: Outsiders arguably did it better as well.

(which is dour, edge lord garbage that thinks it's deeper than it is and has the general maturity of a 13 year old boy).

Personally, I have 0 problems with Snyder, and I don't mind supporting the film... I just also don't want to see it because it looks terrible.

The sad thing is, I get what he's going for. This isn't one of those "you just don't get it" things - nah G, we get it, it's just not very good. He's leaning hard into the "modern gods" angle, which, of course, Grant Morrison did better in the comics. And you can get Green Arrow going "Bull, the world NEEDS THE JUSTICE LEAGUE" in JLU. And Lex....yeah, pretty much EVERYONE outside the live action movies did Lex better.

And yet, Darkseid, Jared Leto's Joker not being an energy drink come to life, no CGI Superman face, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, Slade Wilson, the bad guys teaming up, Joker teaming up with Batman, there's a whole lot of "this should be a LOT better" in this movie.

Can you imagine what a GOOD Justice League movie could be like? Imagine if they did something like Morrison's WWIII, where the finale features the entire population of Earth temporarily getting superpowers to fight the giant space threat, or the league fighting a comics-accurate Amazo? Would be real cool.

[HarryTrotter]

Not really a comparison,Josh Whedon reshooting "Dawn of The Seven" is something that actually happens in S2.
The show is very different from the comic. And thats an improvement. It might be a shallow satire of celebrity culture and superhero movie,but at least it has SOMETHING to say. Unlike the source material.

[detourne_me]

So has anyone else watched this? Cyborg and Flash are really fleshed out and are kind of the stars of the show. There is a lot of nonsensical stuff, of course, and I feel like the movie is way longer than 4 hours.... perhaps all the slo-mo and cinematography just draws everything out longer.
It is better than the theatrical cut, but still is outshone by wonder Woman, Shazam, Aquaman, and Birds of Prey when it comes to DC movies in my opinion.

[Shogunn2517]

Possibly outshined by Aquaman. I still refuse to see it. But otherwise I agree. I posted my full impressions on the other DCEU thread. But overall, I didn't mind it much. I really don't understand why people are raving over it when it was largely the same movie. Yes some scenes are changed and some are fleshed out so it's much more coherent because of that. But a lot of the issues I had with the previous one I have with this, which is reflected in many of the issues I have with the DCEU overall. Joss Whedon was dedicated to doing something different but Snyder wanted his version and tonally its much like his other DCEU movies. If that's your thing.

[Silver Shocker]

I was planning to watch it by now, but I ran out of time and I had to go over my options. Because Canada gets screwed over on HBO Max content, it looks like my best option is going to be signing up for Crave, a Canadian steaming service that has no right to exist (it exists purely of stuff that isn't split up this way in the U.S.). I promised myself I'd never sign up for that, but it costs considerably less than HBO Max would with a VPN (which I also pay for), but right now it's my best option and I got to get this thing watched as soon as I can because the internet is spoiling the holy hell out of it, something I knew full well they'd do. The fact that it's 4 hours doesn't help either.

If nothing else, Crave will also get Godzilla vs Kong at the end of the month, so that's something.

[HarryTrotter]

It does make me interested in where DC movies go from here. There is a lot of setup here.