Batman v Superman

Started by thalaw2, July 21, 2013, 12:29:43 AM

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Quote from: Figure Fan on December 10, 2013, 04:19:54 PM
Has anyone considered that she may not even be referred to as "Wonder Woman" in the film, or that her origin may be changed and she may not be a full-on "Amazonian warrior princess" like she is in the comics? Just saying...

Well... it's not like they very much referred to Superman AS Superman IN Superman so...



Yeah.

catwhowalksbyhimself

Now there's a rumor going around that the Amazons in this universe will be descended from the Kryponian expedition that came to Earth long ago.  On other words, Wonder Woman will be a Kryptonian. This may or may not be actually true.
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BentonGrey

Urg...I hope that isn't true.  If Thor can work on the big screen, so can the freaking Amazons.
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catwhowalksbyhimself

Which they did by excusing the mythological elements are being aliens mistaken for gods.  Presumably they would be going for something similar.

Mind you, I don't think it would work in this case.
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Talavar

While Thor had aliens mistaken for gods, they were still Asgardians.  I really hope this rumour  isn't true, because making Wonder Woman a Kryptonian is a deal breaker. 

BentonGrey

They hand waved the Asgardians being gods, but they were still, as Talavar said, COMPLETELY Asgardians.  They were basically ripped from the comic pages, down to fighting with swords and spears and riding horses.  Their "space ships" were flying viking craft.  Audiences have proven they can accept fantastic realities.  There's no excuse not to play Wonder Woman and the DCU in general straight.  If they want to say they're a colony of aliens, somehow related to the Olympians who were also aliens, I can live with that, but only if its done as well as Marvel's adaptation.  However, making them Kryptonians just makes Wonder Woman something other than what she should be.
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Tomato

In all seriousness here, I'm filing the "Kryptonian WW" rumor in the same file as the "Justin Bieber will be playing Robin" one: Until I see some hard physical evidence, I refuse to believe that they would be that stupid. And not just because it takes a dump all over Wonder Woman's backstory (and it really, really does) it would be disastrous for Superman as well. One of the core aspects of Superman's character is that he is the "Last Son of Krypton." Now, you can stretch that a bit (Supergirl and Krypto in the pre-n52 continuity were fine examples of this) but an entire island? All that will do is poke giant holes in one of the main points of interest with regards to this character. We can sit here and quibble as to how much Man of Steel did and did not get right, but a huge part of that movie was Superman being the last of his people.

But with regards to Wonder Woman specifically... I'll be honest, I don't understand the hesitancy with regards to Wonder Woman. I truly don't. Princess of the Amazons (either normal variety or Asguardian-esque alien hybrids) is bred for a life of royalty, but rebels and seeks her own path as a superhero (aka the same as almost every self-empowerment themed princess movie, just with superpowers). You don't need to bog it down with zeus and hades and all that nonsense, particularly in a movie that isn't about her. Have her show up, drop some hints that she's here in defiance of her mother, and lay the smackdown on the movie's villain.

stumpy

I'm with Tomato on all points. 1) The rumor itself needs a lot more substantiating before I give it any credibility. 2) The "WW as a long-lost cousin" idea is screwing with both the WW and Superman mythos (and I'm not even that opposed to their being many other Kryptonians, e.g. Kandor, if it's done right). 3) The rebellious princess theme works perfectly for the character and there isn't really much need to give a deep backstory to the character. Save that for a WW movie.

On the other hand, as a story idea, I can see a plot where WW shows up and the people of Earth initially think that she is another Kryptonian. That's a particularly believable plot twist given that she is is super strong and comes from a warrior society, like the other Kryptonians they have seen. In addition, her initial encounter with non-Amazonian Earth (and possibly with Superman) might be tense or even hostile. Anyway, that might be a workable idea and it might also explain the rumor, if there is anything to it.
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catwhowalksbyhimself

The latest rumor, which comes from a source that usually gets things right, is that her costume will be an armored version of her costume.  Unlike the previous one, I have no problem like this, as long as they keep the design similar to her classic one with a Greek armor type look, I'd actually consider that a good thing.
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thalaw2

Looks like we'll have to wait another year or two, depending on how you count the time, to see this movie The Big 'Batman Vs. Superman' Movie Delayed Until 2016.  I hope the extra time is used to make it more awesome.  I'm happy to wait for awesomeness.
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Talavar

Yeah, I think a delay is actually a good thing.  More time to polish a script, and the summer of 2015 was shaping up to be a blockbuster movie deathmatch with all the major releases.

Silver Shocker

So Warner Bros has announced that Jesse Eisenberg will play Lex Luthor, and Jeremy Irons will be Alfred.

My first thought about Jesse Eisenberg was to say: "No, no no no, NOOOOOOOO!" on the grounds that he's too young and not intimidating enough, but upon thinking about it, I've been impressed by some casting choices in the past so I should probably give him the benefit of the doubt. But I thing I do know, is that this casting dashes all hopes of the awesomeness that would be Bryan Cranston as Luthor.

As for Irons, I'll fully admit he kinda looks the part in the enclosed photo (more so than Micheal Caine, for that matter), but I only know Irons for his snarling hammy villain roles so I don't know if he'll be good as Alfred. I do love me some Alfred though, so I hope he turns out good in the new movie.
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 It's going to be interesting to see if this movie will totally suck arse or totally blow chunks.
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catwhowalksbyhimself

I'll believe it when I see it, and possibly not even then.
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thalaw2

I hope this movie and the new Avengers film have me leaving my seat wet. 
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BentonGrey

Cyborg gets a big screen appearance before Aquaman.  There is no justice in this world. :huh:
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oldmanwinters

And just when I was really starting to like the idea of a tightly focused Superman-Batman team-up story in the name of character building.  Heck, who ISN'T going to be in this movie?

stumpy

Quote from: oldmanwinters on April 25, 2014, 02:41:51 AMAnd just when I was really starting to like the idea of a tightly focused Superman-Batman team-up story in the name of character building.  Heck, who ISN'T going to be in this movie?

LOL. Who is slotted to play Captain Carrot? ;-)

Actually, I am not opposed to other DC characters making an appearance in the movie, or even having a significant role. As far as I am concerned, Falcon was a happy addition to CA2, even though he isn't necessarily a big name outside Marvel fandom. As long as the writers don't think they have to get bogged down in telling an origin story for every hero in the movie, additions from DC's heroes gallery can work well.
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bat1987

New Batmobile teaser.

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Looks a lot like its comic book counterpart.

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First look at Batman!

http://www.dcuopost.com/multiverse-news/batman-and-batmobile-revealed/

Looks good so far. Need to see it in color in order to judge it, but it's promising.

BWPS

http://i.imgur.com/FLQhzOF.jpg

brightened up image to see the detail.

It definitely looks cool.
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bat1987

Looks like new 52 meets Frank Miller. Was hoping he would have the lenses on at all times, but doesn't seem to be the case as far as I can tell.

Tomato

I'll admit, there's a huge part of me that's still skeptical about this movie and is terrified they're going in the wrong direction... But as a toy collector, Batman and the batmobile are awesome and oh my god I want toys of them right the hell now.

Podmark

Looks promising.
I didn't see MoS in theaters (I'm not much of a Superman fan and wasn't hearing great things) but as a big Batman fan I'll likely be taking a trip to the cinema for this one. Hoping for the best (not necessarily expecting it though).
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JeyNyce

This is me just guessing, but since Supes and Bats outfits look like the New 52 outfit, does this mean that WW will have the New 52 outfit as well?

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MJB

If the coloring of the costume turns out to be grey/blue I would be beyond happy. Personally I hate the blue/grey color scheme but I know that the DKR books had that scheme. Having that scheme would just be neat.

captmorgan72

I like the muscle suit but I hope that Affleck has built himself up to at least Bale's level of Batman physique.